[Friendly Debate] Point of View

[Belle Hibiki]

I'm pretty sure you can make a story as 'big' as you want, so long as you don't actually change crazy shit (kill earth's leaders, blow up major planets, etc.).

Case in point: Before the reset I was going to run Kibbles' final chapter which, in the story, would have had universe-affecting consequences. Butter said that as long as I wasn't going to, you know, ACTUALLY change the universe, I could run a story that big.

[Victoria]

This was a huge thing for me, I never intended to make my story involve NPC's but it did. If I hadn't involved NPC's I would have failed horribly. It can be considered whatever you want, cheating, or otherwise. It's a muse, and I used it.

So I'd have Victoria wandering the desert, and meanwhile her crazy lustful master is freaking out about her. I'm going to tell that story, explain why he loves her, and how her disappearance is affecting him. Her fate is intertwined with these people, the Hunter facility IS her life. How can I write a character and not explain the details? How can I ignore the major plot behind her, as a character? I would be doing my character a disservice, and the readers, if I just ignored everything around her. The story was meant to be read, like it or not, I wrote it to be read.

On that same note...this place is a game, yes, but that only made me have even more muse. I wrote within the rules, I did bounties which ended up making my story more twisted. I spent XP so I could use a certain move. I used what I had, so that I could not abuse my story. I could just write in note pad, make her invincible, but that wouldn't have made it as good. This place is a treasure trove of inspiration. If you don't want to par-take in the experince from all spectrums, then that's your perrogative.

I, also, took offense. I never intended on it at first, but after reaching my word-count goal I realized I had a novel in my hands. I have been told by enough people, too, to make me want to work further on it. So yes, I'll be one of those people who think they're good enough to get published. I've been writing for 11 years, I've been told I have talent, and I have a story that is good enough to rival most of the stuff out there. Chubbs isn't just a game, it's a stepping stone for ambitious writers.

So, yeah, I think that if the thread and story is personal we should be allowed to write from an NPC's view. I have been, and always will be, a fan of omniscient writing. It gives you the story, and plot, in such a way that will keep you enthralled. My threads ARE story's, and they aren't going to stop anytime soon!

The only time I'll ever consider writing in limited form is if it's in the first person, or when I'm with other players. Until then, I'll continued doing what I've been doing. Thus far I've been fine.

I understand you're meaning no offense.

[Carter]

I whole heartedly agree with Victoria and believe that that was the point I was trying to get across. We all can agree that Juno meant no harm or insult, however, unknowningly he did just that. My mother has a condecending way of speaking down to you without ever having that intention and although she means well, that doesn't make her any less of a bitch when she makes you feel like dirt. This is the same sort of feeling I had about what Juno had said. With that said, I'm not trying to flame bait provoke him in any way, I just felt it needed to be addressed.

Back on topic, like I said before, any way that a writter feels is the best way to express their story is the avenue they should pursue. In accordence with the rules of course.

Oh by the way, stfu gtfo Victoria I would never buy anything written by you, psh!

*Goes back to enjoying a Victoria thread* XD XP

[Vad]

Wow.

Rage aside, I can see Juno's view and while I respectfully disagree I won't stop him from holding it. All I have to say about his so called "blatant attack" is:

Lighten up people. We've all told each other we're good writers. You're taking a view of his to heart. Let it go.

[Alexander Trafford]

I thought about this for a few minutes and all i could muster is the following response:

Who cares? I mean really, who cares about what people do in their personal storylines. If this was a site-wide saga i might be like "yo, who the fuck is this NPC she's RPing as", but it's not. It's a storyline created by the writer, and as such the writer should have the freedom to mold that story as he or she wishes. There have got to be bigger fish to fry than THIS debate.

[Belle Hibiki]

What the fuck is this.

I'm agreeing with Trafford?

What the fuck.

[Celena]

Debates are never friendly.

[Jesper]

You're being a little sensitive if you think any of the complaints were too much or overreactions. Compared to some of the other disagreements I've seen on this forum, this thread is pretty mild.

[Alexander Trafford]

What the fuck is this.

I'm agreeing with Trafford?

What the fuck.

Get the fuck out of here. I almost went the other way with my opinion just so i wouldn't have to agree with you.

[Belle Hibiki]

Get the fuck out of here. I almost went the other way with my opinion just so i wouldn't have to agree with you.

Whew, that feels better.

Debates are never friendly.

It was until people started taking it personally.

Then again, this is a pretty fraught topic to begin with because it's about something that people take very personally. (Their writing style.)

[Celena]

You're being a little sensitive if you think any of the complaints were too much or overreactions. Compared to some of the other disagreements I've seen on this forum, this thread is pretty mild.

I've definitely seen some overreacting in this thread, but this is chubbs, tensions run high even in the smallest of topics, not that this is a small topic though, because as Belle pointed out, people taking their writing very personally.

[Sol]

Whether tensions are running high or not this has been a really thought provoking discussion that I thought has been handled maturely. I feel like I'm educating myself through different opinions reading this debate since their isn't really a right or wrong. So far everyone has had an opinion, they've expressed and defended them, there have been no intentional attacks or demeaning jabs. Though this post doesn't actually contribute anything, I'm enjoying this