08-21-2011, 05:38 AM
Kaden Wrote:That's pretty excessive. 3-4 wards at a time is still a lot of coverage and is incredibly reasonable. If you keep Baron, Dragon, and two points into the river covered throughout the entire game, you've done a good job warding.
EDIT: My point isn't "omg Dariden buys too many ward." It's that good coverage is pretty easy to get. If you have four relatively central points warded, then off-map movement becomes pretty predictable if not out-right obvious.
EDIT2: I'll also say that if people are using traps/etc. responsibly through the whole game, they're allowed to not buy wards. Not planting anything until a team-fight, though, is not being responsible.
In regards to edit 2, it's not even that they shouldn't have to buy wards, it's that a lot of people underestimate the value of the vision-type skills. Wards die after three minutes. A Teemo shroom lasts 10. Nid/Cait traps last four. Turrets are indefinite, but I personally think they're better as pushing tools. Boxes only last 90 seconds, so they're not really a great substitute. All of them have an additional offensive value along with the vision (although the sight granted is smaller than a ward, yes, but a little attention to how auto-pathing works pretty much solves that).
Just the boost in length for the traps (and holy shit the shrooms) is awesome. That's one more minute that you can push without worrying about immense fog of war. That's one more minute that you can juke through the jungle with decent knowledge of where the enemy is at. That's one more minute that you don't have to worry about overextending to drop a replacement ward when the one at baron dies out.
Even just spammable vision-granting abilities are often underestimated. I can't tell you how many times somebody has face-checked (and been nommed up) when I have Orianna's Q or Lux's E ready and am about to click the brush.
Same goes for CV. The reason I take it on EVERY CHAMPION is because so few people use it on every 40 second cooldown to help their entire team (although I will admit, my mid game CV sucks). It's definitely not a replacement for wards, no, but you're not always going to have time to run into their jungle and ward the path between mid and bot turret so you can backdoor. I can't tell you how many times a smart CV has gotten a turret down just because our carry can see where they aren't.
As a Teemo player, I have never ever ever ever ever said that I shouldn't buy wards because of my shrooms. They may not be as high on my priority list, but I still try to pick them up. However, nothing irks me more than when somebody says my shrooms are useless for vision when they've been helping keep tabs on the enemy team throughout most of the game.
And for the love of all things LoLy, please kill people with Oracles, especially if they're squishy.
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If life gives you lemons, hand them to me!
I've got a great recipe for lemon meringue pie.

