Mal Nova Wrote:I fixed my Original Post to update my runes and champs.
I plan on getting Graves next and grabbing my 3rd Quint of Insight next.
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I Do think that either pl[aying Jax is very lucky for me... Or I am pretty decent to him... Like I am with Jax...
Trygelan helped me with my AD page.... Gave me some tips when it comes to Last Whisper.
But I have a question.... If I have Black Cleaver... and use it Does is Stack with a second Black Cleaver?
Is it ok or smart to LW and BC? Or one or the other?
Black cleaver is a situational item. For one thing since it builds out of a BF sword, most of the time you won't be able to buy it anyway since you will usually want IE or BT out of a bf sword. But there are some times when you'll want a BC, and that's mostly when the enemy just isn't building armor. If they have almost no chain mails (or the items it builds into), then a BC can do some serious work in decimating what little armor they do have. However, if they have at least 70 armor or more, then you are almost always better off with a LW.
As for getting both of them, it's very rare that you'll want to do that. They kind of work against each other, with the cleaver making the last whisper a bit worse because of how reductions are stacked. The priority for how armor (or magic) reductions are stacked goes Flat Armor Reduction -> % Armor Reduction -> Flat Armor Pen -> % Armor Pen. So BC falls under the first part of that and LW falls under the last, so the BC ends up making the LW reduce less armor overall. Same rule applies for Abyssal Scepter and Void staff for magic reduction as well, but the Abyssal Scepter has the added advantage of giving MR, so a lot of the time it's okay to build both of those.
While you might get their armor lower overall by using both, the reason I say you usually don't want both is because of the utility of the other items you can build out of a BF sword. You'll end up getting more dmg out of an IE + PD + LW than you would with a BC + PD + LW or something similar, as well as the fact that the lifesteal you get from having a BT will keep you in the fight longer allowing you to do more dmg overall instead of having a BC.
TL : DR - Get BC if enemy team isn't building chain mail items, otherwise get LW. Don't get both.