PS3 or 360?

[Sage]

I was just... saying the PS3 had a lot of power.

I wasn't saying that was the most important factor. O.o

I totally agree that gameplay > graphics. But 'pretty' games that are also fun to play beat any game that just has one or the other.

[Jonathan Meer]

I just want to say, I'm playing CoD4 online, through wireless internet, with about thirteen other blokes/gals and zero lag. =D

And free! I would've had to pay a fair amount to have the same experience on the 360. Just a year of online play will more than warrant the fifty dollar difference between the two systems.

[Kaden]

I was just... saying the PS3 had a lot of power.

Yeah, I was going to point that out, too. People were talking about the technical specs and the potential of each system. The PS3 wins that. It's not even debatable.

In the actual implementation, thus far, there's no real difference.

On a side-note, I got a good lawl when Assassin's Creed came out and a bunch of XBox fags (the generic internet blogging kind, not talking about anyone on Chubbs) were getting off on the fact that the 360 version was running 1 fps faster. Without mentioning the fact that the PS3 version had more processor-intensive filters thrown on top of everything else.

EDIT: I think of this like the N64 and the Playstation. The two were on even terms when they first came out (64 probably had the edge, even, with its launch titles) but by the end of it, there as really no comparison.

[Jonathan Meer]

Let us lock this thread in infamy (and literally), and return in a year. Then let's see.

[Sullivan]

You should post up your PSN tag. =P

And I thought Vegas was pretty fun, but I still wouldn't compare it to CoD4. Short as it was, the story left me very pleased.

[Jonathan Meer]

Suitecake

[Sullivan]

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[Saz]

On the subject of graphics power. I don't know how you could get much better looking than something like Gears of war. You say the PS3 is so superior, but how much could it improve on a game such as Gears of war, or Oblivion, say. What differences would the PS3's superior hardware make, graphically? Things like, more detail in the backround, or an extra couple of enemies on screen, really mean little to nothing to me.

[Kaden]

On the subject of graphics power. I don't know how you could get much better looking than something like Gears of war. You say the PS3 is so superior, but how much could it improve on a game such as Gears of war, or Oblivion, say. What differences would the PS3's superior hardware make, graphically? Things like, more detail in the backround, or an extra couple of enemies on screen, really mean little to nothing to me.

It's not just a matter of graphics. It could do things like running multiple instances of multiple AI without lagging. That kind of stuff. More power has more uses than just graphics.

Also, I wouldn't quote Gears of War as being the peak of graphic superiority. Metal Gear Solid 4, for example, looks significantly better.

[Saz]

I wasn't saying GOW is the best looking game ever. I was just using it as an example, of what could the PS3 do with it, that the 360 couldn't.

[Jonathan Meer]

I've seen Gears of War.

I'm playing Metal Gear Solid 4 right now.

There really is no comparison.

You sound a lot like the guy in the late 1800's who said "We've reached the end; there's nothing left to invent." It's really difficult to see how things could be improved (after all, if it were obvious, we wouldn't have hundreds in the industry just trying to come up with stuff), but you can take my word for it. The PS3 is a powerhouse. The Xbox certainly has some nice stuff, but the two simply aren't equals.

[Saz]

Whatever. Personally I really don't care if the PS3 can do 200 more shades of grey than the 360, or can have 1000 enemies on screen at once. Other than MGS4, and Final Fantasy, whenever that comes out, I really don't feel like I'm missing out on much.

But once again, I must say I'm surprised at how, from a couple of days ago, you've gone from, 'which console should I get', to, 'the PS3 is a beast, and vastly superior to the 360 in everyway'. /womp

[Jonathan Meer]

You're blowing what I'm saying out of proportion. It's simple fact that the PS3 has better graphic capabilities. This simply cannot be disputed, and it is quite blatant.

I'm not saying you're wrong for preferring the 360. But I think you are quite wrong when you consistently try to place the 360 on the same graphical level as the PS3.

As for my personal stance on the matter, I've borrowed my friend's 360 for the better part of a month, with such games as Dynasty Warriors 5, and Halo 3. Personally, I am far more impressed with the PS3 on many different levels.

I think the real blown-away moment, though, was when I first kicked up PS3 online through wireless (free, mind you), and experienced zero lag.

[Saz]

... I never said the 360 was equal in power to the PS3. I just said I don't see it as an overly important factor if the PS3 can make a game look 5%-10% better than it would on the 360. Which, btw, it hasn't really done yet on games that have come out on both consoles.

I'm glad you're enjoying PS3 online, I've never tried it, but a lot of people online have been saying it's pretty sucky, atleast compared to Xbox Live. I don't know why they'd say that, maybe Xbox Live just has more features or something, like I said, I've never played on the PS network, so I couldn't say.

[Jonathan Meer]

That's the thing; it's not a minimal difference. It's huge. As big, I'd say, as the gap between the PS2 and the Xbox (which is to say, XTREME!). Whether that difference doesn't matter that much to you or not is a different story; I'm personally a sucker for eye-candy.

I find PSN quite capable. Only once have I noticed lag (one of the opponents had a spotty connection), and even then, it was still quite play-able.

I must admit, I don't know much about Xbox Live, having never used the service myself, but PSN does all the things I'd really care to do online, for free.

[Kaden]

The only thing Xbox Live had that PSN didn't was the ability to access your friends list and send messages and what-not while playing the game. It was a pretty convenient feature.

And then they added it to PSN.

[Jonathan Meer]

You forget the monthly fee, Rad. Xbox Live has that while PSN doesn't.

*is so, so witteh*

[Jack]

Does PSN do anything equivalent to Gamerscore and Achievements?

[Kaden]

They're preparing for it. They just added a feature called "Trophies" which will display rewards for things gone in games (the same as Achievements) and you'll be able to display them when Home comes out.

Since no games have Trophies programmed into them yet, though, no one actually has any trophies.

[Rem-13]

I only hope trophies are more noteworthy than some achievements. I don't need a gold star for completing the first level.