The Like/Hate Thread

[Pinky]

I should say that there is the long-held belief in the segregated black communities in America that white people are rich because the President is white and he lives in the White House. What we're seeing here is the zeal bursting through the barrier that kept this belief out of sight for so long. Now that a brown-ish toned man, which people are quick to call "black", is President prosperity is going to magically rain down on them -- this is what they've been waiting "too long" for, for the The Man to get his come-uppin's and for the black communities across America to finally get all the glory that comes with a president that has the same skin tone as yours. I can't say how popular this view is, either held by a relatively small number of the 16% of Americans that identify themselves as "black" or a large number, but the belief exists. It doesn't help that a so many blacks live in urban areas where schools chronically fail to educate them, or that black leadership is all too happy to keep these people confined and segregated to maintain the victim-status image, among other things. The results of this situation, however, are all over the place and unmistakable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1...r_embedded

http://www.howobamagotelected.com/

Who else has heard of this documentary "Media Malpractice: How Obama Got Elected"? Sounds terrifying.

[Rem-13]

I wish republicans put this much effort into running the country.

[Pinky]

I wish republicans put this much effort into running the country.

The problem is not the quantity of effort Republicans put up, but the quality. They abandoned fiscal conservatism, and conservatives are generally more aware and don't simply vote for people by party affiliation.

The great failing of Bush was that he was merely a great governor and not a hero. He was governor of Texas, the most powerful and prosperous state in the union (and 5th largest economy in the world?), and the nation wanted him to bring that to the whole nation. However, what made Texas that way was that the Stat Congress is overwhelmingly fiscally conservative: they keep taxes low to encourage business and work, and use their natural resources (oil) to generate revenue. The Republicans in the US Congress were anything but conservative, and the legislature has oversight of the executive office which they abandoned for several years in lieu of 9/11 and then blamed him for their abdication of responsibility in the years following that. Now, we have a motherfucking potential Pol Pot in the White House because the federal political climate is anti-Bush.

[John Doe]

Huckabee for Pres 2012!

Chuck Norris Approved!

[Rem-13]

Pol Pot? Really now?

[Pinky]

Mild mannered college professor with a penchant for socialism turned leader of a nation.

Am I talking about Pol Pot or Obama? The answer: yes.

[Rem-13]

Cant deny that logic. Well at least it will be an exciting presidency.

[Sage]

Pure capitalism doesn't work anyway. Wake up. -_-

[Pinky]

Capitalism is the best there is. Open your eyes. :|

[Sage]

Note I said pure capitalism. It doesn't work.

Not like America's been pure-capitalist for the past 20 years anyway.

[Pinky]

So you're arguing against something that nobody is defending.

How courageous.

[Sage]

I'm impressed you managed to turn an observation into an argument. Way to go, chief.

[Jack]

I'm impressed you managed to turn an observation into an argument. Way to go, chief.

roflmao

[Pinky]

Who makes an "observation" against something that nobody is contesting? seriously.

[Pinky]

On Capitalism, which is economic liberty and personal responsibility against the notion of collectivism:

The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. - Ed Burke

If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that it values more, it will lose those too. - Maugham

Self-sufficiency... has three meanings. The first is taht one should not depend upon others for one's daily bread. The second is that one should have developed the power to acquire knowledge for oneself. The third is that a man should be able to rule himself, control his senses and his thoughts. - Bhave

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. - Pres. Eisenhower

Property is the fruit of labor -- is a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is homeless pull down the house of another, but let him work diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built. - Pres. Lincoln

A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government. - Pres. Jefferson

The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established government. - Pres. Washington

I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as the law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. - Pres. Reagan (his farewell speech following the end of the Cold War, implosion of the Red Menace, and collapse of the Berlin Wall during his terms of office)

That we have a president who so openly flirts with socialism after the hard-learned lessons of the failures of collectivism across the two previous centuries, and in the face of the principals that the US was founded on, is insane.

[Kaden]

Who makes an "observation" against something that nobody is contesting? seriously.

Would you just knock it off? Seriously.

[Ashe]

Hi gais, what's going on in this thread?

[Kaden]

Your face!

Oh snap.

[Pinky]

EDIT by Kaden: that's not knocking it off.

[Ashe]

I like House.