Boardroom 2

[Burter]

Zarbon - TEAM ADMIN
Lord Slug
Furiza
Gohan
Android 20
Garlic Jr
Krillen
HellFighter 17

Well, back again. Zarbon, I will hold you partially responsible, however that doesn't mean your in total trouble. Let's see if you can bring something to the table that we don't know.

Everyone:

1) How would you rate Zarbon as a TA?

2) Why did you lose?

3) Who would you blame the loss on?

4) Who would you fire?

5) Who would you NOT fire?

As always, staff can interfere and speak whenever they want.

[Burter]

Let me reword number 5. Who did the best?

[Ruhiel]

Originally posted by Burter
1) How would you rate Zarbon as a TA?

2) Why did you lose?

3) Who would you blame the loss on?

4) Who would you fire?

5) Who would you NOT fire?

Well, I'm getting a serious sense of deja vu here. We really need to get our act together if this is our second time coming back. Okay, enough off subject, time to answer the questions.

1) Well, I don't like being a negative person, so I'll start with the positive things. He took his job as TA very seriously. He did a lot of work for the team and put in a lot of effort. I think he really tried to make up for thinking he didn't do enough last time.

But, I guess I have to be a bit of a realist here. Zarbon, quite frankly, did TOO much. By taking the majority of the work upon himself, it left very little for the rest of the team to do tasks. By doing all that work himself, he was likely to make several careless mistakes in the final product, which I noticed while skimming it over.

For being resolute with his idea... I can see that in a good way and a bad way. Being a leader who's a pushover and isn't a leader, is extremely bad. It would have been chaos.
But, being a dictator isn't a good thing either. The rest of the group had several suggestions for what and what not to do, and how to improve the assignment. I'll agree that several of the suggestions came in late, and it would have been difficult to make a big change of plans, but we most likely would have been able to pull it off, and we might not have ended up here. I guess I can understand going with his idea though. It's much, much simpler to create the storyline and other things for an rpg, when it's your idea. Trying to organize another person's idea is much more difficult to do. So, I don't completely hold the fact that he didn't comply with the ideas of the group, because it would have been almost impossible for him to pull off. But, he still should have listened a bit more.

2) Our entire final product was much too scattered. Many people's ideas never made it onto the final copy, and there were many careless errors. As one staff member said, this rpg would have been far to run as staff. Mainly because, many things written in it were too ambiguous and vague.
That, and our group just wasn't organized in the least bit. Some people didn't have any jobs assigned to them, and then, those jobs were very minute. We needed to organize ourselves better.

3) Well, I don't like pointing fingers, but I'd have to say Zarbon. He was the TA, and he didn't command us very well. He did an extraordinary amount of work for us, but that, and his leadership skills were just a bit lacking.

4) Sadly enough, I would have to say Zarbon would be it. I won't continue repeating myself, because I have explained these things in the above questions.

5) Hellfighter 17. Great job on his part. He did very well for coming up with NPC's, techniques, and several other very important things as well.

That's my two cents.

[Zarbon]

Oh no! Team Rocket is blasting off again!!!

Ha ha, just a joke, let me explain how I am not responsible before I answer questions.

Sometimes, a leader has to take a risk, a big risk against the whole group, sometimes a very big one, just to try to keep it up there, like a plane, taking a risk to make it higher, just to have it crash. Try and try again as they say, a thing that you must learn. You think all the staff are perfect? They had to learn from mistakes just to get to what they are, a great staff team which disserves their jobs.

I took a risk this time, because I thought it would bring us closer, maybe i'm not the best leader, but I try, as hard as I can, and got pretty close I think, 2 votes...Not bad, we got Baata's vote, and that put a smile on my face until I saw the result.

Things happen, and we have to take it as a team, so pretty much, its all of our faults.

To explain why I took alot of the work, my storyline is a very strong one, and it is all in my head, every city, every planet, other then names for the Elemention ones, is very needed, since I wanted to keep it perfect, for if someone made the Humans have swords, it might have ruined the story, so I kept it to myself.

You guys did a GREAT job on the other stuff, and I did a GREAT job on my stuff, but sometimes, we all make mistakes, misorganization for one, I should have got the jobs a bit sooner, thats about it, that was the only problem.

Mistakes happen to everyone, the young and the old, learn something new everyday.

This risk I took, could have won it, but as a team we failed, maybe because we don't work well together, but one thing is for sure, they did better, we did worse.

And I mean WE, the blame is not on me folks, its all of us, we are a team, and teams must take blows together.

Now, after my lecture...

1) I think I did pretty good, room for improvement though, since I am normally the follower, not much practice.

2) We lost because we all made mistakes as a team, including me, and various others.

3) All of us, as I said above, we are all responisible for our lost, as we are a team.

4) Who to be fired? Hmmm... I'll get back to you on that, I need sometime to think, i'll post it later.

5) The best? Krillin and HF17 of course! They did a fantasic job, a flaw here and there, but 17 worked hard on Techniques, and Krillin did a whole section!

[Burter]

Wow. That was a very nice post, Zarbon. o_0

[Zarbon]

Originally posted by Furiza
You take a risk when you're dealing with people you know better than.
Many people on the team know better than you do.
How do you account for completely brushing off their opinions?

Why should we take it as a team when it was your risk?

I brushed off their opitions because I saw one simlar to yours before, a thousand times. And originally draws attention!

Notice how one of the staff voted us because of the different types of Elementions? Thats original, its not very common.

And we should take it as a team, because it wasn't only the risk, you were putting it off for no reason for a long time, need more? I got more.

[Ruhiel]

That's a very... interesting analogy there Zarbon. Us being a plane... taking it higher... crashing... burning... yeah.

Well, truth be told Zarbon, that whole Elemental thing has been played out so many times, it makes my head spin. Just look at Pokemon.

But, he does have a point with the whole team being responsible. If we've lost twice already, then there must be something we're doing wrong, and we ALL have to take responsibility. But, Zarbon was our leader, and he does get the majority of it.

[Burter]

Zarbon, if you dont' deserve to be fired...then who does?

[Tobias]

1) How would you rate Zarbon as a TA?

Furiza about summed it up. I didnt like how he went against the group, but he did reasionably well. Out of five? 2.

2) Why did you lose?

To much in fighting, I said at the beginning the real task of the TA was getting the group to decide on one thing.

Well the TA doesnt need to come up with the storyline, he just needs to make sure we agree on one and see it happen proprerly...

Zar didnt even wait for everyones imput, and I check the sight several times a day, so its really not like he had to wait that long; on me at least.

3) Who would you blame the loss on?

Zarbon, he didnt rally us properly.

4) Who would you fire?
Who I blamed the loss on. Zarbon

5) Who would you NOT fire?
HF17 or krillin. They both helped alot but krillin seemed a little over zealous. Like slug last roun. Id say 17, though its a tough choice.

[Zarbon]

Originally posted by Furiza
It is very common.
I was putting it off for no reason for a long time? Yes.
Am I the reason we lost? No
Are you the leader of the team, and therefore responsible for this loss entirely? Yes.

Did I ever say you were the reason we lost? No.

And leaders don't always take it, the team must, mistakes were made by us all, so were all responsible.

Lastly with Furiza, I took it for the good of the team, I took a risk because I knew it would bring us closer, and I brought the plane as close to space as I could.

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20, This one is located in space, they are the protectors of time, have a culture, and is MUCH different then Pokemon. The closest Pokemon to this would be Clefairy, and its not even an element.

I get the majority of it now? We all deserve an equal share, we all made a mistake, at least once, other then Krillin and 17 of course.

Now, who deserves to be fired?

I think Furiza, he slacked and was nagging me when I was trying my best, teammates encourage each other, not put them down.

[Android-18]

Ok I'm feeling sick here but I'll try to say what I can...

To explain why I took alot of the work, my storyline is a very strong one, and it is all in my head, every city, every planet, other then names for the Elemention ones, is very needed, since I wanted to keep it perfect, for if someone made the Humans have swords, it might have ruined the story, so I kept it to myself.

This was a team assignment, not a "Zarbon can make up for past mistakes task". I'm sorry to say it hun...but that's just how it looked. I voted for the other team not for the way they worked, but for the fact that their RPG made sense. I read your story outline, and you lost me. It was short, vauge, and I just didn't understand it. But what bothers me is what you said right there. It was all YOUR idea, but if we wanted just one idea we would have 17 groups, not two.

You have to understand one thing Zarbon, to you the storyline may have been strong and perfect, but that may not be so to others. I have thought many times that some of my stuff was good and perfect, was I right? No, even Burter once shot down what I thought was brilliant work. You were supposed to be a TEAM, and you didn't manage that part well. You should not have used your idea if you didn't want it ruined. Believe me...if you became staff, and you kept back something from the other staff because you didn't want it ruined, you wouldn't last long. We share our work, our views, even recently Reijin worked so hard on a project and posted it for us, did we all agree? No. He ended up changing it around, but in the end that made it much better. What you could have done was combine all the ideas that were posted to make an excellent RPG, not a one man RPG, you know? I also didn't like how you forgot some people, and gave some people only a little work to do.

I might say more, but that was my main point. You were a team, and you had NOTHING to make up for, or show off that you can take the load of work. You should have worked in a way to do what the members wanted and use your ideas too.

[Tobias]

Originally posted by Furiza

However, I'd like to know why you think you should come to the next round, despite the fact you tried your best this round and failed fairly miserably.

I dont think he was THAT bad furiza,we got more staff votes than when you TAed. It was his fault but you make it sound worse than it is.

[Android-18]

Yes Freiza try not to be too harsh, yes he made some mistakes and you tried to help and you were ignored, but he didn't do THAT badly.

Zarbon I'd like to show you this though:

Originally posted by Burter
A round works as such:

Each team picks a Team Admin, or TA, which will lead them in the task. They will take full responsbility if your team wins or loses.

Then you'll do a task, which you can set up in your team forum. The TA will be in charge of posting the final product of each task.

The winning team is safe, and the losing team goes to the boardroom. The boardroom can only be posted in by the staff and the people inside it. The team will be questioned by the staff off several things, and Raditzu will ask the TA to bring two or three people back with them to face the firing.

The people in the final boardroom will come in, and face the staff once again. In the end, Raditzu will make the final choice and fire who he feels deserves it, taking into consideration the opinions of his staff members.

The process repeated until the Final 4, which will work differently. More on that later.

[Reijin]

I will make a note of throwing out that the reason that you guys are here is NOT due to Zarbon's idea... There is a reason that there was a 3-3 tie until my vote, and I would have voted for Zarbon's myself off of taste. Both RPGs had their appeal to them, so whether his was good or bad was not the question. My entire problem was that as a regular member, I'd prefer to join his RPG. But as a staff member, I would rather work with the other team, because a staff should be strong and work together, and I just didn't see that. That means that his RPG would likely not last very long, despite the content.

The greatest empires can fall when they turn against themselves.

[Zarbon]

18, its not a Zarbon make up for past mistake assignment, I gave as much as I could.

I worked on that with another person, he is writing it right now, because he needed something.

He told me to not change anything in there.

So, if this got out, and things were changed, he would be confused, and I would be in a very long PM chat...

Furiza, you slacked because you left it to the last minute, it was the closest I could do to the real world, not the best speller you see, so sorry about that...

You can redo your post in any matter to correct. I misworded.

See! A mistake! Happens all the time...

Edit: 18, all responsiblity eh? Wow, I didn't see that last round, sorry, but that is not a true statement as it may be.

The leader calls alot of the shots, but the team does too, the team must work together, must do to the best of their ability!

[Burter]

Furiza, you can stop talking now. We've heard your say.

[Tobias]

Originally posted by Furiza
Do I? Do I really?
We got staff votes, but we didn't win. What do you call it? Semi-failure?

Well... I dont want to argue with ya, this isnt the time for it, but by your logic there is no difference between a shutout and a close loss? A football team that loses 0-30 isnt worse than the team that loses 27-30? You made your point reign it in there buddy.

edit: took to long to post =x sorry for being late

[Burter]

Zarbon, whenever you want you can send me who you want to take to the final boardroom. Can be two or three people. If you want to wait for everyone to post first, please go ahead.

[Ruhiel]

This was just slightly bothering me in the back of my mind.
Last task, we were claimed to have done too much; stuff the task didn't ask for.
This task, Excelsior gets bonus points for doing extra.

I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, but could someone please explain why this is? I'm just trying to figure this out so that the team could learn from experience.

[Zarbon]

I'll wait for everyone.

Garlic, well done.

Its like a race, a race car race, when you have to have a photo finish right at the end, when your race car team with all the repairs, actually lets lose a bolt! And you slow and crash across the line, in last.

Close is better then nothing!