Boardroom 2

[Android-18]

Last time I voted against you guys because I found it hard to read your work, it was the presentation mostly. I think perhaps you guys were trying to do less, and perhaps worked a little too hard on that. I think you guys did very well aside from the team work aspect, I just found the other team's RPG more appealing. But I also didn't know what I was voting for, the techiques, overall appeal, or what.

[Zarbon]

Originally posted by Android-18
Last time I voted against you guys because I found it hard to read your work, it was the presentation mostly. I think perhaps you guys were trying to do less, and perhaps worked a little too hard on that. I think you guys did very well aside from the team work aspect, I just found the other team's RPG more appealing. But I also didn't know what I was voting for, the techiques, overall appeal, or what.

Alot of us don't work well together, that is very true, another fault in this project.

[Hellfighter 17]

First of all, I will do the questions.

1) How would you rate Zarbon as a TA?

As a TA, he did pretty bad. A TA is supposed to organize his team and use their input to further the final product, not try to make up for anything, if you are going to ignore suggestions, I wouldn't want you as staff, because, that is what we are here for, isn't it.

2) Why did you lose?

We lost because some people had no idea what they were doing or just kind of did their own thing, this was msotly due to Zarbon's lack of dictating responsiblity

3) Who would you blame the loss on?

First of all, I wouldn't really blame anyone, that would be putting all fault on them, but, as to who contibuted the most to our failure, I can answer that. Zarbon for reasons stated above, he was not well organized with us and did not take in all input.

4) Who would you fire?

I would fire Zarbon, for reasons stated above.

5) Who would you NOT fire? *scratches out* Who was the best?

I would say Furiza, he did his excellently and it was well-formated.


Now, commentary on what people have said, this will be...interesting. I'll just do this generally...

Some people said Krillin was the best, such as Zarbon said he did a whole section. He made a format for making the techniques and edited them in his first post. He did do a good job, I'm not saying he did a bad one, but he didn't exactly do a whole lot, but he had enthusiasm and the willingness to work, which wa sgood. If he had been able to do more, I'm sure I might have voted him as the best. Sorry, Krillin, I forgot your other section. I must say that still does not reach you to the best, but still, I liekd that too, good job.

Some of you voted for me, I thank you, but I feel as though I could have done better. Personally, I liked my NPCs, but my techniques could have been better. I am not saying it his all their fault, but the TA could have moved me more in the right direction.

I don't see what was wrong with the final product's format, I kind of liked it. It could have been better, but I liked it.

As for the risk thing, as Furiza stated earlier, you should only take a extreme risk if you know the people will be able to fulfill every bit of your expectations. And I don't think that you know anyone of us that well, or, at least, you shouldn't >_>

As stated before, you do take responsibility for our downfall, that is the risk of being TA. TA is to show your leadership skills to the staff, but you didn't even notice that. It would be better if you read Burter's explanation of the task fully.

As asked before, tell me why you do not deserve to be fired, Zarbon. A in-depth answer is what I am looking for.

Furiza, stop the hate, man =(

As for the idea, I have seen a t.v. show almost exactlt like that, with humans and different races frome elemental planets and everything, it was good. I think the storyline had great potential, but, in the final product, you did not make it as in-depth as you could have. But I did kind of liked it, but I still say my ant RPG would have rocked =(

I will post my reviews on each team member alter, along with a in-depth look at the TA's performance, once I regain my memory...and finger usage.

[Krillin]

True, close is better than nothing, but it is still a loss. When it comes down to it, no matter how close we were, someone STILL has to get fired. Instead of being tied with Team Excelsior, we are now going to be down two people, and it will only get harder from here.

First off, I'd like to point out that all I did was the stats, and heading up the Technique List. The stats were extremely easy to do. It took me all of maybe fifteen minutes, and really isn't anything praiseworthy.

And as for the Technique List? Heck, I didn't even submit any Techniques. I just copied and pasted submitted Techniques into one post.

Now, on to the questions.

1) How would you rate Zarbon as a TA?

-The whole task felt rather weak. I won't bother to belabor every single point everyone has brought up so far, but I do think Zarbon is not cut-out to take charge of such a huge task. But that's not something to totally deride him for. Yes, he carried some weight in our loss. Everyone else did too. Zarbon was a rather poor TA, but I don't think he is a poor member of Team Rocket.

2) Why did you lose?

-Simple. Team Excelsior was superior. Their submission looked nicer. It was extremely close, but they still got that little edge. A loss is a loss.

3) Who would you blame the loss on?

-No one. I'm serious when I say it was on all of us. But Zarbon, as TA, has to carry the responsibility for this one.

4) Who would you fire?

-Again, I'm having trouble picking someone, but I'd have to go with Zarbon.

5) Who do you think did the best?

-HF17 did a brilliant job, as he submitted 50+% of the Techniques.

[Hellfighter 17]

Krillin, don't cut yourself short. As I said, you did a good job, just not exactly a best asset , really. *cough*70%*cough* I would like for you to expand on why we failed in comparison to Excelsior, at least me, anyway.

Originally voted for by Burter
The One- Sexy =D

Why thank you, it was based on me =\

[Zarbon]

In-depth?

Leaders are just like you my friend, we are people, people make mistakes, people take risks in a rush.

You guys I believe, rushed me to decide, or you would take command anyway, which is not very team like.

I picked what I thought best, and only Furiza was to complain.

If more of you complained, maybe I would have rethought it, or maybe I wouldn't, it all depends.

I count on you as much as you do me, so for all who are against me, its also you, so take a moment to think.

[Android-18]

Ah, but people did agree that your idea was better, and I recall someone saying "He's the TA, we have to go with his descision" when Zarbon didn't want to do it.

[Zarbon]

Originally posted by Furiza
Sorry for posting again, but I have something new to say.

I have to agree with Zarbon on this fact.
I was against his descision, I complained, but as he says, nobody else complained, so he's justified in saying that although he did act against the team descision, the majority did not complain when he did so, thus accepting his descision.

Just food for thought.

If people did complain, and explained why, I would have tossed my idea, and went to Furiza's.

[Reijin]

I want to give Zarbon some help on something.

I brought you guys into this boardroom based on how everyone worked, but though he has to accept responsibility, he was not the only person that did things. Some of you didn't even seem to MAKE suggestions. Zarbon's actions were enough to get your team here... however, that doesn't mean that HE will necessarily be fired. He may be. But it all comes down to how this works out.

As for the "going overboard" thing, you have to find a median. Last time, we asked you to revise "Board rules", meaning relating to the message board and the stats and such. Coming up with new Fusion rules were not relevant in any way. Those weren't rules, those were techniques. Which means you took what seemed to be an excerpt from the Techniques page and stuck them in as "rules". You don't see our SSJ section in the rules section. In this case, we gave you a basis, and stated that you could use the basic idea as a building block, but that we wouldn't limit your ideas. I believe we said to create anything you wanted, as long as you used our system as a basis. They did that. You did that. They just seemed to add more to that basic block.

Zarbon did come up with an idea when you guys had no forewarning to start working with, when you only had 48 hours. Granted, you had some time, but would you rather be caught with your pants down when you gf's dad comes in, or just with your belt buckle loose? He gave you guys a cold hard core to work from, and you could build on it. Excelsior did that exact same thing, the only difference being that they all agreed with Bra's decision and noone argued. However, they each equally agreed to do parts and let each other help, instead of one man doing all the work. Zarbon did take a stand as team leader and he produced. He gave a concrete building block to work with. Bra did the same. However, they ALL went about working together very differently then you. Your loss was not totally Zarbon. It was a team failure. He is just responsible as admin, but if you try to blame him entirely, and he gets fired, and you assume that it was all his fault, do you expect to suddenly have this losing streak vanish? 20 stated it best. There is a reason why you guys have come here twice. If by saying Zarbon is entirely at fault on this helps you believe that getting rid of him will rid you of imperfections, that's fine, but then you are also saying he was responsible for the earlier loss as well. Perhaps there are some team issues you all could learn to relate with.

[Android-18]

I have to kind of agree with that...It's not ENTIRELY Zarbons fault, I just don't like how he did most of the work. As I said, if we wanted people to do a whole task mostly on their own, we would have 17 teams not just two. He took the weight, but he didn't have to. He could have been strict and told everyone to just shut up, and to work with them.

[Hellfighter 17]

As I said before, your idea had real potential, yoy just didn't bring it to all you could, but it was still good. But, as TA, I think you could have organized us better, that is what I see as a main fault. Youd did do some things right, sorry if I did not say that. Thanks for pointing that out, Rei.

[Zarbon]

Now were getting somewhere here, thanks for putting it in a matter easier to understand, Reijin.

As I said, this is part my fault, but it is also part yours, I think we understand each other.

Made mistakes but so were good thing.

Now, we need Gohan's opition! Where is he...?

[Burter]

Gohan is in Australia, so we can't expect him to always mesh with our time frame. He's excused based on that, however we will still wait for him before moving on.

Just pointing out it can't be helped

[Reijin]

I want to state that whomever I fire, don't take it personal, or feel that I don't believe you can grow to learn to deal with things. I see many people with the ability to grow into a great staff member... however... there can be only one, and regardless of how much I think everyone tried and how well you guys may have done, mistakes were still made, you guys failed, and I still have to fire one of you, even if I don't want to.

Zarbon, get your team together for the Final Boardroom. If anyone else from the team has anything further to say, then they need to do so. If you can find them.

[Burter]

Be sure to PM your choices for Final BR, Zarbon. You can wait till Gohan posts if you want.

[Zarbon]

I'll wait in case there is more.

8PM Central.

[Reijin]

Note, Gohan's only input this task was a single post on page one of the storyline discussion.

Also, Frieza, you want evidence as to where you slacked off? Here's a quote from you when asked to produce your material, six hours after you made a post going "This will be done before you even read this".

" Yeah. I kind of... Forgot. I'll do it now. "

[Reijin]

Yes, I know this. But Frieza did ask where he had slacked off at all, and I found it. It's that changeling trait I posted about.

[Android-18]

Yes but we're looking for a lacky, no slacking off there!

Oh shit I sound like...not myself.

[Burter]

Originally posted by Lord Slug
I could prolly go and find an assload of times where the staff as done that.

This is the game. When your staff, you can slack off, but not in the game. We're not finding someone who can act like us the best, we're looking for the best staff member.