Extremely Important

[Vegeta Jr]

The largest concern I see from most people is the history and background of their current character.

If there will be a new system, and its fully developed, you will be able to keep your Canon character, and its history, if you so choose. We think that once you see the whole new thing you might think otherwise, but believe the Staff when we tell you we do read your concerns.

The way you'll be able to keep your character, like loose stats/zeni/techs or some compensation or any of those is still being discussed and in development. And Im sure that won't be set in stone for quite some time.

[Broli]

They aren't answering anymore questions, so there's no point in asking any.

Though, there are still members, unfortunately, who see no need in roleplaying until the change occurs.

[Krillin]

Originally posted by Super Buu

Some people actually like their current characters and have done massive work on them to bring them to their current point. I wouldn't have thought that was difficult to understand. I'm actually surprised that you're so readily discarding that, seeing as your character is having something of an epiphany at the moment. I have no problem with your choice - whatever does it for you, y'know? But you shouldn't be mocking other people because they've chosen to continue.

I know that, had customs been allowed when I joined, I would have been a custom no question. But SB practically is a custom, the way I've made him. He looks the same, he's got the same name as the show, and he has some of the same abilities, but his personality and background is vastly different.

No no no, you misunderstand me. If people want to keep their canons, that's cool. I've got no beef with it. I mean, I'd prefer it if absolutely everyone just switched to customs, 'cuz then we'd be free of a lot of mess, but that's just a personal taste.

The thing I pointed out, however, was the fact that people are apparently so entranced with their canon character that they will never give him/her up, yet they will not roleplay if they aren't getting something for it. So it's kinda like saying, "No way I can give up <blank>. I love writing as him/her more than anything else! But I'm not serious enough about that to actually roleplay if I'm not getting anything."

[Broli]

There are exceptions.

[Krillin]

Originally posted by Vegeta Jr

If there will be a new system, and its fully developed, you will be able to keep your Canon character, and its history, if you so choose.

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Actually, scratch that. We don't want to be making absolute statements like that yet. We're remaining open to ideas such as this, and it's very possible that people will be able to keep their canons when/if we make the change, but it's still too conceptual to say something like this.

[Krillin]

Originally posted by Broli
There are exceptions.

Oh certainly. I'm not saying that all canon-only folk won't roleplay, or that all people hwo won't roleplay are canon-only.

[Broli]

I think a lot of the confusion that's arising is the fact that staff all have different opinions.

We have the owner of the site saying that you will keep your characters, and another staff member saying, "Wait. That might not be the case."

In other words, if staff aren't very clear on what will be happening and what won't be happening, neither will the members. That's why a million questions get asked. That's why the same question shows up time and again. That's why staff gets burnt out.

[Krillin]

Originally posted by Broli
I think a lot of the confusion that's arising is the fact that staff all have different opinions.

We have the owner of the site saying that you will keep your characters, and another staff member saying, "Wait. That might not be the case."

In other words, if staff aren't very clear on what will be happening and what won't be happening, neither will the members. That's why a million questions get asked. That's why the same question shows up time and again. That's why staff gets burnt out.

The reason this is happening is because we presented an idea of what would happen, and a few Staff members took the liberty of detailing how a system would work when, in reality, the entire thing is still in the developmental stages.

In a nutshell, we are considering making a massive reformatting of the site. Beyond this, and the possible idea of introducing customs to the RPG, just about anything else that has been told is not at all official.

[Kirano]

Originally posted by Broli
We have the owner of the site saying that you will keep your characters, and another staff member saying, "Wait. That might not be the case."

Who said that?

[Super Buu]

Originally posted by Bulma

Originally posted by Broli
We have the owner of the site saying that you will keep your characters, and another staff member saying, "Wait. That might not be the case."

Who said that?

Klirrin, a few posts ago.

[Broli]

Krillin just said it. o.O

It wasn't a direct quote.

Really, I'd just like to see these kind of things handled better. There's no reason for so many members to become frustrated or confused simply because miscommunication is running rampart.

Looking forward to additional information, though.

[Krillin]

Not saying you won't keep them. Not saying you will keep them. I'm just saying that, as of right now, this is all still very conceptual. I don't think we have a single tenet of the proposed system absolutely nailed down yet. I just want to make sure you guys don't take something that is said, run with it, then find out that we ended up spreading incorrect/incomplete information.

[Broli]

Forgive me for keeping this going, but how can you expect members not to take something said and run with it when staff said it? Are you seeing my point here?

Edit: I just want staff to be aware of how much weight their words carry and how important it is to be able to have definitive substance behind any comment made.

[Krillin]

We're not perfect. Getting an actual representation of what we want to say out on the Internet is very tough, and when a site has members as passionate as some we have here, the conversation can explode before we have a chance to contain it a little. That's both a good thing and a bad thing.

Let me just say that it's easy enough to say that "X should have been handled better", but it's much tougher to get ten people on the same page, in agreement, and totally efficient on a cause. I would say that the Chubbs staff does this better than most other RPGs I've been on.

There's going to be miscommunication, especially on something as murky as this system. NOTHING is tied down. We're throwing out ideas. We're keeping some of it under wraps. But rest assured that we are taking all feedback into account, whether positive or negative, and are crafting the system accordingly.

EDIT: This post was actually made in response to your earlier post, but I think it addresses your recent post as well.

[Bra]

Don't apologize, Broli.

We threw this thread out to see what would be said.

If we can't take the criticism, we don't deserve our positions on staff. As long as it's not outright flaming, I mean.

I promise, though, that we're taking what's said here into account on the staff board.

[Super Buu]

Well, Waffuru has said that it's likely that we can keep our characters (it's even in the first post of this thread). 75% or so. That's what I, and a lot of other members, are banking on. I have no idea why the 25% would come to fruition, because forcing customs makes no sense to me in the first place, but then I guess there might be some hidden reason the staff hasn't revealed yet.

I will say that, if that happens, there's a good chance I'd leave. Not trying to blackmail you guys (or encourage you if you're one of the people that want me gone ), I'm just letting my stance be known. =)

[Krillin]

Alright. You're die-hard canon, then.

Out of curiosity, what is it about a canon that you can't recreate in a custom?

[Kirano]

It's not that you can't recreate history with a custom. It's the fact that so much time and history has been placed into one's cannon.

[Broli]

Personally, I've just grown fond of my character. For me, it's not so much changing from canon to custom as it would be changing from one character to another. I wouldn't want to do it. I've been Broli for over 3 years. That's a lot of time of development and basically falling in love with who I was attempting to make Broli out to be. Granted, I'm still so far from where I want him. Really, I see no problem with allow cannon and custom to co-exist.

Besides, what is it about a custom that you can't do in a cannon? I mean, that's what we've been preaching for who knows how long.

[Burter]

I'll probably make Burter green, and that'll be it. He'll still be Burter. That's about as custom as he's going to get.