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Champions - Piper Juunanagou - 08-17-2011

Need moar Zhonya's.

And with your ability to teleport, wouldn't merc treads be a better investment for avoiding being CC'd to death? (or at least stretching the window of time you have to scream and run away)


Champions - Anzekay - 08-17-2011

Leona/Garen bottom lane is so broken.

That is all.


Champions - Vad - 08-17-2011

Piper Juunanagou Wrote:Need moar Zhonya's.

And with your ability to teleport, wouldn't merc treads be a better investment for avoiding being CC'd to death? (or at least stretching the window of time you have to scream and run away)

True.


Champions - Vad - 08-17-2011

Ashe Wrote:LeBlanc has early game mana issues. That said, what she brings to the table is damage and not much else. So sacrificing her damage for tanky gear late game doesn't help her much because they then just completely ignore you as a non-threat and then kill you anyway because you are still squishy.

EDIT: I would go GA instead of Aegis. That would give them reason to ignore you a bit and give you some extra escape time.

If I can pull off even some of that build I'll have near 500 AP. That's nuclear for her.

Like this one.


Champions - Jonathan Meer - 08-17-2011

Also, Magic Pen. Consider Sorc Shoes (if CC won't be much of a problem, though I'd expect merc would be the better choice 9 times out of 10)

Also consider Void Staff. If you're planning to build Void Staff, don't build Sorc Shoes (percentage-based magic pen is calculated after flat magic pen, so in general, if you're planning to have void staff, you're better off just using that alone).

'course, Abyssal Scepter is mr-reduction, which is better than magic pen, since it aids your teammates as well.


Champions - Jonathan Meer - 08-17-2011

Vad Wrote:If I can pull off even some of that build I'll have near 500 AP. That's nuclear for her.

Like this one.

No @ masteries; get the 15% mr

Get some mana regen per 5 seals. See if that lets you bypass Archangel's and build something else that's more useful.


Champions - Kaden - 08-17-2011

Jonathan Meer Wrote:Also, Magic Pen. Consider Sorc Shoes (if CC won't be much of a problem, though I'd expect merc would be the better choice 9 times out of 10)

Also consider Void Staff. If you're planning to build Void Staff, don't build Sorc Shoes (percentage-based magic pen is calculated after flat magic pen, so in general, if you're planning to have void staff, you're better off just using that alone).

'course, Abyssal Scepter is mr-reduction, which is better than magic pen, since it aids your teammates as well.

Sorc and Void serve two different purposes. Sorc Shoes are for early game burst when, with masteries/runes, you can be hitting people for true damage. Void Staff is a counter item. If you see people grabbing up Negatrons, start you Void Staff. Even if you suspect they might try to itemize for MR, pick up a Blasting Wand and sit on it for a bit to either go Void Staff or something else. They shouldn't really ever be looked at as mutually exclusive items (not exactly what Meer said, but just pointing that out).

Completely agree with Meer about the mastery build. Get 9 in offense with the % MPen and then the rest into Utility, probably, to get cooldowns, experience, and mana regen. I guess you could try 9/21/0. Couldn't hurt to give it a shot.

Zhonya's is one of the best survival tools for burst casters. You jump in, burst someone down, then activate Zhonya's for the stasis. Hopefully, by the time it ends, you cooldowns should be done and you can fire off a second round of burst. The armor is also helpful, especially if you're going to build some HP. If I were going to build a "tanky" version of someone like LeBlanc, I would probably go catalyst -> sorc shoes -> zhonya's -> deathcap -> banshee's. Gives you some armor, some mr, the Zhonya's active, and a spell shield.


Champions - Ashe - 08-18-2011

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Champions - Piper Juunanagou - 08-18-2011

Malzahar is actually a woman??


Champions - Rafael - 08-18-2011

Like a fusion of Morrigan and Malz, interesting.


Champions - Vad - 08-18-2011

I bought Annie last night. DO I SEE A NEW OBSESSION IN MY FUTURE!?


Champions - Jonathan Meer - 08-18-2011

Annie is boss.

Not my personal favorite, but a boss.


Champions - Rafael - 08-18-2011

Indeed. Who needs mobility when you have AOE STUNS!?


Champions - Waffuru - 08-18-2011

Annie's kit bores me.


Champions - Piper Juunanagou - 08-18-2011

I think you should try out Morgana while she's free (I think she's free this week), Joe. She's one of my favorite caster-types. She's got a CC, an AOE, a shield, and her ult is pretty amusing. Plus, she's a pretty sturdy character.


Champions - Vad - 08-18-2011

I do believe I own her. She's the reason Waffuru called me weird for the first time.


Champions - Super Buu - 08-18-2011

Pretty sure he's used Morgana before.

Edit: uuuhhh this is what I get for leaving a thread open and then posting in it an hour and a half later without refreshing


Champions - Kaden - 08-19-2011

If you're interested in picking up Annie, and I know this sounds weird, you should play a lot of Brand, imo. They have similar kits (Annie trades some AoE for survivability), but Brand simply takes more skill to execute "correctly." A great Brand player will be a good Annie player. The opposite is not at all true.


Champions - Vad - 08-19-2011

Brand is the next champion I buy. Can't afford him or I'd be playing him. Once I get him I'll be playing him almost exclusively like I do Le Blanc now.


Champions - John Doe - 08-19-2011

Brand is so much fun. Imma go play him in ranked now.

Maybe.