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Random Image Thread - John Doe - 06-09-2011
Leo Wrote:But that's my point, if you own all current 3 consoles with their respective add ons for enjoyable motion control, why would you purchase the Wii-U (with perhaps no motion control?) that has worse graphics than both the XBox 360 and the Playstation 3 but the exact same gameplay (perhaps with no motion control).
It just baffles me. The ONLY reason I can see anyone getting a Wii-U is for the exclusive remakes of Nintendo franchises. : S
"If you own all three" "worse graphics" It's like you're just trolling me.
The Wii U seems to be new console from what I can see. I'm not sure what you're trying to convey anymore.
Random Image Thread - Kole T. Merr - 06-09-2011
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/07/wii-u-is-1080p-has-hdmi-out-internal-flash-memory-sd-and-usb/
WiiU is 1080p. What more do you want?
Random Image Thread - Tyr - 06-09-2011
John Doe Wrote:"If you own all three" "worse graphics" It's like you're just trolling me.I should have said current gen consoles, sorry. The new images/videos from Wii-U looks like my PS3/XBox 360.
The Wii U seems to be new console from what I can see. I'm not sure what you're trying to convey anymore.
e: minus the clipping issues on that one video, but might be the game so shrug
Doesn't matter what p it's in when the rendering of the graphics themselves looks like
aliased ass.
e2: to save a post, the reason I'm comparing the Wii-U to PS3/Xbox 360 is because I was told that the Wii-U comes out earlier than the new PS/Xbox and as such there will be a period where it will be the 4 consoles (XBox 360, PS3, Wii, Wii-U).
Random Image Thread - Kole T. Merr - 06-09-2011
In the end, though, Nintendo's still going to make shit-tons of money off the WiiU. Just because you don't like it, it doesn't make the WiiU a bad system.
EDIT: Won't PS2 still be around, too? That thing doesn't seem like it's ever going to die.
Random Image Thread - Tyr - 06-09-2011
Kole T. Merr Wrote:In the end, though, Nintendo's still going to make shit-tons of money off the WiiU. Just because you don't like it, it doesn't make the WiiU a bad system... but what's good about it?
EDIT: Won't PS2 still be around, too? That thing doesn't seem like it's ever going to die.
Random Image Thread - John Doe - 06-09-2011
![[Image: 1307466815914.jpg]](http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee428/mikeee111/1307466815914.jpg)
Random Image Thread - Super Buu - 06-09-2011
Rafael Wrote:Because you would get really tired after like, 20 minutes
God forbid nerds start to get in shape?
For me, Skyward Sword is gonna be the first real test of Motionplus. Though I haven't played Red Steel 2 which uses it and apparently the swordfighting in that is pretty sweet.
Random Image Thread - Pinky - 06-09-2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XREnvJRkif0&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2oZWpqtNi4&feature=player_embedded
that is all.
Random Image Thread - Psyren - 06-09-2011
Just a reminder....The only game footage shown on the WiiU..Was Cinamatics from the 360/Ps3..They havent shown its graphic capability yet....Sure it has 1080P...But crap still looks like crap no matter how much gold you mix into it...Chunky nasty graphics still look chunky and nasty in 1080P.
Now as for the price war thing above about the motion on the wii and having to buy addons for the other consoles? (all bundlw prices and features come from gamestop.com)
$299 Xbox 360 4GB Console with Kinect includes:
•Xbox 360 4GB S Console
•Kinect Sensor for Xbox 360
•Kinect Adventures game - rated "E" for Everyone
•Xbox 360 Black Wireless Controller
•Xbox 360 Composite A/V cable (standard definition)
•One Month Xbox LIVE Gold Membership
•1 year limited warranty on console
Basic 360...4gb harddrive...and a brand new kinect sensor..and a nice game included to show what the kinect can do...Controloer...One month of xbox live...and a 1 year warranty...Graphic superiority to the wii...Graphics rival Ps3Dvd player..pay for multiplayer but you get what you pay for which is a impressive service hailed as one of the best...Nice game selection that appeals to all ages...100 dollars more than the wii..
$369.99 Ps3 Move Bundle
(Please note you also get the Playstation Eye Camera)
•PlayStation®3 system
•PlayStation®Move motion controller (wireless)
•PlayStation®Eye camera
•Sports Champions Blu-ray game
•PlayStation®Move game demos disc
•AC Power Cord
•AV Cable
•USB Cable
Epensive...but alot of nice extras in it that are not mentioned like the fact that the system included is 320GB....It plays Blueray Dvd's (And regular dvd's)...It has a pretty good multiplayer support system..Motion control...plus the other games I can buy later on that dont require motion plus...Oh and you get the eye camera...it has some nifty features and games for the family...that look beautiful. And I get graphic superiority that rivals the 360. Nice game selection that appeals to all ages.
$139.99 Wii bundle
•White Wii System
•Wii MotionPlus Remote
•Wii Nunchuk Controller White
•Wii Sports
•Wii Sports Resort
wow...139 dollars is pretty cheap but lets see...Im getting a basic wii...one wii plus controler...a nunchuk...and two cheap games...wow...Thats worth 139 dollars...and I get crappy graphic quality...crappy multiplayer...Oh and lets not forget...no dvd player...So yeah its worth the price...but so is a quarter to use a toilet....Not so impressive Game selection..Mostly aimed at younger audiences..the few games they have for adults are fun..but passable...Most games feel like they were designed for the Nintendo Ds...
Sorry...But I would much rather shell out a extra bit of cash for the Ps3 or Xbox360 because im getting what I pay for. Im getting good multiplayer support. Im getting good graphics. Im getting improved motion controls with games that appeal to my age group. Im getting a dvd player for when I just wanna chill and watch a movie. Im getting a large game selection that doesnt force me to use motion control unless I want it. And yes I said id even rather have a ps3 and im a known 360 fan boy. Playstation move does what the Wii does but it does it better like a more athletic older brother.
The only thing that appeals to me about the Wii is the classic games I can buy like n64, nintendo,super nintendo games that i remember from my childhood. But is nostalgia really worth 139 dollars or less for just the basic system..? I can go to a yardsale and get most of these games and systems from people for about 20 to 30 bucks or less....
Sorry but in the end..Id ratehr shell out the extra cash and get more bang for my buck.
And yes ps3 an xbox360 have had their problems but even with their problems I would rather have them over the Wii. Again it comes down to personal preference in the end.
![[Image: 185px-BurningMario.png]](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091210192325/fantendo/images/thumb/7/7d/BurningMario.png/185px-BurningMario.png)
Random Image Thread - Belle Hibiki - 06-09-2011
The bias in that 'review' is hilarious.
Random Image Thread - Rem-13 - 06-09-2011
Uh oh! Someone's dragging opinions into a console fight!
So why is this all not in the E3 thread after that was created? Much more applicable.
![[Image: UPi5w.png]](http://i.imgur.com/UPi5w.png)
Random Image Thread - Kaden - 06-09-2011
Psyren Wrote:Sorry but in the end..Id ratehr shell out the extra cash and get more bang for my buck.
Dude. It's over $200. You make it sound like its a completely negligible amount.
Also lol @ shifo watching Extra Credit. Wii having bad graphics is a legitimate complaint at this point. Yes, they're correct in saying that people are usually talking about aesthetics, but graphics are what give you the ability to present those aesthetics in an appealing way.
Wii can barely do that.
Random Image Thread - Milk Bubble - 06-09-2011
John Doe Wrote:I was fine with the Wii in terms of "movement" with the controllers. In fact, most of the time it made it easier. Running in Zelda and just flicking my wrist while running cuts things down like a breeze. RE4 was very similar, being easy to aim then switch to knife when needed. There was a spin for Mario galaxy, there was a whip for Metroid Prime, etc etc. Maybe people aren't holding it right? My Wiimote usually just rested in my lap as I was playing anything. If you hold it out at full arm's length then of course you're going to tire yourself out.
I'm sick of hearing "better graphics better graphics!" We're looking for aesthetics, not graphics. Think Katamari Damaci. You wouldn't complain that it looked bad because it didn't. It had a style that drew you into the crazy, fucked up world as you mercilessly rolled innocent people into your giant ball of death. Having said that, yes there are games on the Wii that lack both graphical power and aesthetics too (fuck you Ninja Bread Man). All I ask is that you complain about the right thing. Graphics are just polygons, aesthetics are how they use them to make the game look good.
There are studies that show that "realism" in video games does not leave as much of an impression and lasts as long (with graphic updates and whatnot) as more "stylized" graphics that give a certain aesthetic.
Random Image Thread - Super Buu - 06-09-2011
Right now, I'm guessing what Microsoft and Sony will call their tablet controllers.
Random Image Thread - John Doe - 06-09-2011
Milk Bubble Wrote:There are studies that show that "realism" in video games does not leave as much of an impression and lasts as long (with graphic updates and whatnot) as more "stylized" graphics that give a certain aesthetic.
Okami.
And I'm pretty sure I said or alluded to the fact that the Wii lacked graphical capabilities and that I just wanted people to complain about the correct problem.
Random Image Thread - Kaden - 06-09-2011
John Doe Wrote:I just wanted people to complain about the correct problem.
And that's what my comment refers to.
Random Image Thread - Jonathan Meer - 06-09-2011
Wii aesthetics are not greater than PS3/360/PC aesthetics.
Wii graphics < 360 < PS3 < PC
Fuck that noise. Personally, I couldn't stand it. Too damned fuzzy, barely better than playing PS2.
Random Image Thread - Pinky - 06-10-2011
i was totally on board with wiiu until i saw the controller. :[
Random Image Thread - John Doe - 06-10-2011
Graphics are part of aesthetics so what I said is true. Every polygon and shade and color and texture comes together to bring you into the game's world. I never said that Wii had better aesthetics or that you shouldn't complain about it's graphical power, because you should. Which isn't to say you can't get a good looking game on it (Kirby's Epic Yarn and both Super Mario Galaxies come to mind).
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Random Image Thread - Kole T. Merr - 06-10-2011
Leo Wrote:.. but what's good about it?
![[Image: haters_gonna_hate.gif]](http://twenty-somethingtravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/haters_gonna_hate.gif)