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Random Image Thread - Psyren - 06-10-2011
Belle Hibiki Wrote:The bias in that 'review' is hilarious.
Personal Preference thats what it comes down to.
![[Image: goldenpoo3.jpg]](http://consumerist.com/images/31/2009/05/goldenpoo3.jpg)
As for the Wii...Like i said...You dip your poo in gold...In the end its still poo.
Random Image Thread - Jonathan Meer - 06-10-2011
Aesthetically pleasing game with shitty graphics < aesthetically pleasing game with bamf graphics
Random Image Thread - Kaden - 06-10-2011
Leo Wrote:.. but what's good about it?
What's bad about it?
Quote: Graphics are part of aesthetics so what I said is true. Every polygon and shade and color and texture comes together to bring you into the game's world. I never said that Wii had better aesthetics or that you shouldn't complain about it's graphical power, because you should. Which isn't to say you can't get a good looking game on it (Kirby's Epic Yarn and both Super Mario Galaxies come to mind).
Next time just link to the video if you're going to parrot it. =P
My point was that, for consoles, graphics are the medium of expression for aesthetics. You could know how to paint the most beautiful sunset ever, but if you can't make the color orange it's just not going to look right.
Limited graphics means a limited ability to appropriately express an aesthetic. Most of your posts boiled down to "your wrong about the hardware, its the developers not using their software properly" which is just as false and as it may be true. Yes, when working with limited resources its on the people using them to get the most they can. Your early posts, though, made it sound like your position was that no fault should be placed on the Wii.
Random Image Thread - Kaden - 06-10-2011
Jonathan Meer Wrote:Wii aesthetics are not greater than PS3/360/PC aesthetics.
Wii graphics < 360 < PS3 < PC
Fuck that noise. Personally, I couldn't stand it. Too damned fuzzy, barely better than playing PS2.
You can't generalize aesthetics across a console like that. It's the developer's choice how they use the tools they have.
Wii just gives them fewer tools. Kirby's Epic Yarn is a great example of inferior graphics and vastly above-par aesthetic sense.
Conduit, on the other hand, is using inferior graphics with an otherwise boring and over-done aesthetic.
Random Image Thread - Jonathan Meer - 06-10-2011
Your point and my point are the same; I just pair it with the proposition that the Wii does not have a greater abundance of 'aesthetics' (take that as cumulative, or as a total of 'aesthetically pleasing games') than the other consoles, and with that being equal, graphics wins.
Random Image Thread - Kaden - 06-10-2011
Jonathan Meer Wrote:Your point and my point are the same; I just pair it with the proposition that the Wii does not have a greater abundance of 'aesthetics' (take that as cumulative, or as a total of 'aesthetically pleasing games') than the other consoles, and with that being equal, graphics wins.
My point was actually that the onus of responsibility is on the developers, whereas your point was phrased in order to make some consoles look better than others.
Quote:Personal Preference thats what it comes down to.
As for the Wii...Like i said...You dip your poo in gold...In the end its still poo.
Really? Did you actually read those two lines one after the other?
Random Image Thread - John Doe - 06-10-2011
Kaden Wrote:Next time just link to the video if you're going to parrot it. =P
I did, lol.
John Doe Wrote:And while I'm at it http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/3201-Graphics-vs-Aesthetics
And lol, if aesthetics are equal, then they both look equally good. Graphics aren't separate from how good the game looks overall, which is what I consider aesthetics to be.
Hahahahaha derailing an image thread is fun.
Random Image Thread - Kaden - 06-10-2011
John Doe Wrote:And lol, if aesthetics are equal, then they both look equally good. Graphics aren't separate from how good the game looks overall, which is what I consider aesthetics to be.
You're creating a false syllogism.
I mentioned Conduit before. That game was developed with the same aesthetics as Gears of War or Half-Life 2. Those aesthetics become a detriment to the game because the Wii is not capable of creating the graphics that such an aesthetic needs in order to be appealing in this generation of consoles.
John Doe Wrote:I did, lol.
My bad.
Random Image Thread - Tyr - 06-10-2011
Kaden Wrote:What's bad about it?Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? I make 4-5 posts on how the Wii-U isn't superior to any other console in any way, shape or form and I have to make another post about it?
wtf is dis
Random Image Thread - Nori - 06-10-2011
wtf is dis shit. Graphics are important, even if you pretend they aren't. Look at how people were like "omg uncharted 2 is so beautiful game of da year."
Random Image Thread - Milk Bubble - 06-10-2011
Nori Wrote:wtf is dis shit. Graphics are important, even if you pretend they aren't. Look at how people were like "omg uncharted 2 is so beautiful game of da year."
And look how one guy made a little game with super low end graphics called Minecraft and sold 2.5 million copies. Or how the best selling MMO is World of Warcraft, and the graphics in WoW were pretty much never all that "realistic".
Aesthetics and style > realism.
Random Image Thread - Psyren - 06-10-2011
Milk Bubble Wrote:And look how one guy made a little game with super low end graphics called Minecraft and sold 2.5 million copies. Or how the best selling MMO is World of Warcraft, and the graphics in WoW were pretty much never all that "realistic".
Aesthetics and style > realism.
Yeah and now that same game is being ported to the 360 for use with the kinext and looks 50 bajillion times better.
![[Image: widget_b7Awiw3xrnWy4EYzfs6skQ.jpg]](http://sas.guidespot.com/bundles/guides_aw/assets/widget_b7Awiw3xrnWy4EYzfs6skQ.jpg)
Random Image Thread - Belle Hibiki - 06-10-2011
Psyren Wrote:Yeah and now that same game is being ported to the 360 for use with the kinext and looks 50 bajillion times better.
How does that point invalidate his point? The point is that graphics quality doesn't = success. In fact, you pointing out that the game is getting a graphics update after it's already been a success actually proves the point that graphics didn't make it a success.
The most important part of any game is that it's fun to play, and the most important part of graphics is that the images are sharply defined. They don't have to be orgazmazing to do that. Like has been said, see Minecraft for an example... Or Super Meat Boy... Castle Crashers... Or League of Legends vs. HoN...
Random Image Thread - Vad - 06-10-2011
![[Image: fuck_this_shit-1618.jpg]](http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics/images/f/fuck_this_shit-1618.jpg)
Random Image Thread - Kaden - 06-10-2011
Psyren Wrote:Yeah and now that same game is being ported to the 360 for use with the kinext and looks 50 bajillion times better.
Yeah... you could at least try if you're going to troll.
Random Image Thread - Kaden - 06-10-2011
Leo Wrote:Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? I make 4-5 posts on how the Wii-U isn't superior to any other console in any way, shape or form and I have to make another post about it?
wtf is dis
You don't really know anything about the console and you're already going on and on and on about how it's awful.
My point was that you should stop just running your mouth.
Random Image Thread - Vad - 06-10-2011
Kaden Wrote:My point was that you should stop just running your mouth.
Stop writing checks that your ass can't cash is what he's saying.
Random Image Thread - Tyr - 06-10-2011
Kaden Wrote:You don't really know anything about the console and you're already going on and on and on about how it's awful.What crawled up your behind?
My point was that you should stop just running your mouth.
We've seen visual representation on how the console works, we've seen how the controller is supposed to work (as in the pitch they're going with in commercials), we've heard that they're going to offer an online service to match the other consoles' and we've seen the lineup of games that are also on the other consoles.
The graphics - worse or equal to the other consoles that we currently already own.
The controller - I don't see the purpose of a small additional screen between my hands.
The gameplay - The exact same as any other console AS IT'S THE SAME GAMES.
Online service - The only thing we don't really know anything about right now, but considering the Wii past online services combined with their lack of experience on the field.
I'm not just running my mouth, I saw the presentation live as it happened and this was what it was. There's nothing from that presentation that suggests it's going to be better than any of the current consoles on the market on any field - if this is the case, why should we buy it?
Random Image Thread - Rem-13 - 06-10-2011
RANDOM IMAGE THREAD PHOTO BOMB INITIATE
![[Image: KtyTi.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/KtyTi.jpg)
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![[Image: Id7DV.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/Id7DV.jpg)
![[Image: YINrU.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/YINrU.jpg)
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Random Image Thread - Pinky - 06-10-2011
none of those are photobombs