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DBZ Remake - Pinky - 02-11-2009
The writers of Buttlord GT have so much to teach us.
Here's an example of their complaint. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nRR7-bU2iM
Starts off pretty bad, then goes to first-string animators at 0:30, and then as soon as the combat starts it's back to being shit.
DBZ Remake - Ashe - 02-11-2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IcgPTcBYZk&feature=related
Fuck yes. I love this part.
Honestly, I've always been quite partial to the Android Saga, or really the bridging part from Trunks to before the actual Cell saga happens.
Toriyama is basically the Stan Lee of Japan.
EDIT: Vejita is just fucking badass in that fight. And 19, as awesome as he sounds (to me), sounds like Kermit the Frog in that fight.
DBZ Remake - Belle Hibiki - 02-11-2009
Ahaha, I love that part.
"Let me ask you: does a machine like yourself ever experience fear?!"
DBZ Remake - Ashe - 02-11-2009
Yeah, and then the absolute terror on 19's face as he's scrambling to get up the side of that crater with no arms.
I think its just straight up Vejita at his best.
DBZ Remake - Belle Hibiki - 02-11-2009
I think a close second is when he massacres the downed Ginyu Force, because Goku is too much of a pussy to do it himself.
DBZ Remake - Saz - 02-11-2009
Rod Hardwood Wrote:It was painfully evident pretty early on in the series. The first time where it stood out like a punch to the face was probably the time that Goku became the golden warrior.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dls6pi8dN0
This clip cuts out junk and splices one episode into the next, so go to 6:00. At 6:25 the third-string animation team takes over for the next episode. Maybe it was harder to notice if you only watched one new episode every week, but when you're watching it back-to-back like this you get the full punch-in-the-face effect. A similar event happens during the Cell Games, with first-string animators doing the No More Rules episode followed by some of the shittiest animation ever. It's usually not so pronounced, and the farther back you go the more difficult it is to see, but it's definitely there.
If they don't reanimate the whole series, the least they could do is reanimate the shitty parts.
Well when you point it out like that, it's pretty clear to see.
DBZ Remake - John Doe - 02-11-2009
Since we are on the topic of the Android Saga, Dr. Gero should have totally won against Piccolo.
DBZ Remake - Orion - 02-12-2009
Piccolo should've won more fights than he did.
DBZ Remake - Belle Hibiki - 02-12-2009
Piccolo likes touching little boys in their sleep.
DBZ Remake - Rem-13 - 02-12-2009
He's just training them!
DBZ Remake - Jack - 02-12-2009
Rod Hardwood Wrote:It was painfully evident pretty early on in the series. The first time where it stood out like a punch to the face was probably the time that Goku became the golden warrior.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dls6pi8dN0
This clip cuts out junk and splices one episode into the next, so go to 6:00. At 6:25 the third-string animation team takes over
Wow. That almost made me cry.
DBZ Remake - Sage - 02-12-2009
rem-13 Wrote:he's just training them!
Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodge!!!!!
DBZ Remake - Mocchi Kuppo - 02-12-2009
It kind of angers me how terrible one animation team is when compared to another. Their animation styles should have at least been somewhat similar, yet Goku's hair somehow doubles in mass when transitioning from the first episode to the second. -.-
DBZ Remake - Pinky - 02-12-2009
It has to do with workload and cost. The first-string team is obviously the best, so they cost the most which means they do the least. They mostly do the still-frame poses and low-intensity animations (dialog). They cost so much it's just not possible for them to do so much very often.
Like this episode. It's mostly second-stringers, with first-string doing small bits of animation and still frames here and there.
Third-string is the worst and cheapest so they get to do a lot of work, usually drawing "inbetweeners" which is a job where you draw a handful of animation frames that link one prominent frame to another. It's the kind of work you don't normally notice because it's over before you can see it, but sometimes (regretfully) they actually do major projects.
DBZ Remake - Jack - 02-12-2009
Ok, so, what are some animes that have consistently good (preferably great) animation teams doing most of the shit?
DBZ Remake - Belle Hibiki - 02-12-2009
Recent Hajime no Ippo has been pretty good, but it's only six episodes in.
DBZ Remake - Saz - 02-12-2009
Full Metal Alchemist.
DBZ Remake - Kaden - 02-12-2009
Bil Baer Jaxx Wrote:Ok, so, what are some animes that have consistently good (preferably great) animation teams doing most of the shit?
FLCL
Hands down.
EDIT: The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya has pretty consistently good animation, too.
DBZ Remake - Pinky - 02-12-2009
You guys are such faggots. Cowboy Bebop is obviously the best anime ever. >:O
DBZ Remake - Kaden - 02-12-2009
o.0
He was asking about consistent animation. There are some pretty bad series out there that are well drawn.