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Boardroom 1 - Zarbon - 01-30-2005
Quote:Originally posted by Burter
I disagree. I'm not saying Zarbon was good or bad, but the spam topic is actually a very big issue so I don't like how people say it's a "small task" It's only small cause Zarbon made it that way
Spam seems very disimportant on this forum it seems to me, and if I was to change the rules if I was staff, I would take it slow like that, and start with that.
I also like to put rules in point form, it seems more...suitable to me.
And Burter, I fully agree spam is a large issue, but it is small as in how long it takes to type.
Trust me, I would know about spam, i'm leading a campaign against it.
Oh and thank you 20 for defending me, everything you say is true...
Boardroom 1 - Android-18 - 01-30-2005
I agree with Burter. A good example I like to use is this. A person can easily write a page on a person taking a bite out of an apple, anyone can do that, it's not hard to expand on one thing. I could write 5 pages on why spam is bad, and what spam is good. He made jot notes, in my opinion. Zarbon tried, that's true, and perhaps he just didn't like his topic, but he didn't put in his full effort. When you're a staff member you know that you have to put 100% in, when you can, and he only put 50%. That's how it looked.
Boardroom 1 - Burter - 01-30-2005
Quote:Originally posted by Android 20
When I said small task, I meant as in not much to write about. Spam is very important, but also pretty straightforward. You've got the good, the bad, and the ugly. Zarbon did well at identifying what spam is somewhat allowable, and what spam is completely unnecessary. Also, smaller rule size can be a good thing as well. The more compact the rules, the less intimidating they are and the easier they are to understand.
So, tell me, your defending him now. So he SHOULD or SHOULD NOT be fired? Remember who you said earlier
Boardroom 1 - Zarbon - 01-30-2005
Quote:Originally posted by Android-18
I agree with Burter. A good example I like to use is this. A person can easily write a page on a person taking a bite out of an apple, anyone can do that, it's not hard to expand on one thing. I could write 5 pages on why spam is bad, and what spam is good. He made jot notes, in my opinion. Zarbon tried, that's true, and perhaps he just didn't like his topic, but he didn't put in his full effort. When you're a staff member you know that you have to put 100% in, when you can, and he only put 50%. That's how it looked.
I put as much as I could into it at the time, I could put in more now, but at the time I was doing various things across the whole week.
It is very compact and easy to understand, and covers every basic spamming thing that should be, its perfect, though not that long.
Boardroom 1 - Ruhiel - 01-30-2005
I know that I said that. I'm aware I'm contradicting myself, but I was just trying to point out that just because what he did wasn't huge doesn't make it bad. I mean, yeah I voted against him because he didn't seem to do everything he could possibly do, but I'm trying to defend him from being judged against just for having a small rules page. I still think he did the least work out of all of us, but I'm just trying to make a point that just because the size of his work was smaller doesn't mean it has to be worse. You can write a 10 page essay on why I am arguing this, and you can just put down a few sentences, and most people would prefer to read the few sentences, because they don't want to bother to read the whole ten pages.
Boardroom 1 - Hellfighter 17 - 01-30-2005
Quote:Originally posted by BurterPeople will listen to it now because he rephrased what I said =(
I disagree. I'm not saying Zarbon was good or bad, but the spam topic is actually a very big issue so I don't like how people say it's a "small task" It's only small cause Zarbon made it that way
Quote:Originally posted by ZarbonI just naturally took that into consideration because you also said that in our forum.
Quote:Originally posted by Hell Fighter 17
Quote:Originally posted by ZarbonNobody should be given any breaks, this is to decide who should become staff. I must say, for Krillin, I think he did a fair job, for the fact that his forum was actually a small task and he put in as much as I would probably think of.
I was given a small job, give me a break.
Anyway, if I had to pick someone, it would be Krillin, no offense.
Why? He got something for a whole forum, and it was very poorly done to me.
I was putting in a small joke to lighten the mood, even though this is a serious discussion, that is no reason to lose your sense of humour.
Quote:Originally posted by Android 20What about spam in the Q/S/A forum, though? Also to Zarbon's response right afetr this and his latest one.
When I said small task, I meant as in not much to write about. Spam is very important, but also pretty straightforward. You've got the good, the bad, and the ugly. Zarbon did well at identifying what spam is somewhat allowable, and what spam is completely unnecessary. Also, smaller rule size can be a good thing as well. The more compact the rules, the less intimidating they are and the easier they are to understand.
TO MOST PEOPLE: I think Slug did do a good job, but, as one of the staffers said, the extras was bad. I said earlier that I did not like the threads he made either. I don't think Slug is horrible, just adding to why I said there wasn't any real biggest asset.
Just my views on what some of you have said.
Boardroom 1 - Burter - 01-30-2005
Good answer, 20. 5 Cool Points for j00
Boardroom 1 - Tobias - 01-30-2005
You said slug making a different thread for each person angered you and you thought it was pointless. Would you rather everyone posting about each others in one thread? I though it helped organize it alot.
Boardroom 1 - Hellfighter 17 - 01-30-2005
Quote:Originally posted by Garlic JrI do not think anger is really the best word I was trying to think of, but, in some sense, yes. As a staff member said Team Excelsior kept it all in one thread and theys aid tehy were fine. Plus my main reason that I said that, as I satted, was because it would make more sense for us to make our own anyway, then we could just edit it from there. He could have suggested this in the "Task teh first" thread.
You said slug making a different thread for each person angered you and you thought it was pointless. Would you rather everyone posting about each others in one thread? I though it helped organize it alot.
Boardroom 1 - Tobias - 01-30-2005
He could and possibly should have asked us to make our own thread, I dont feel that its that big a deal though... but whats this about editing?
Quote:Plus my main reason that I said that, as I satted, was because it would make more sense for us to make our own anyway, then we could just edit it from there
Couldnt you do that in the thread you got? Maybe Im not reading that right.
Boardroom 1 - Hellfighter 17 - 01-30-2005
Well, we cannot edit his post, so it would make more sense for us to make our own thread, because then some of teh focus goes to what is in his post, rather then having to scroll down for our posts.
Boardroom 1 - Hellfighter 17 - 01-30-2005
Quote:Originally posted by Lord SlugI was really quoting what staff said how there were a bunch of posts and threads, I kinf agree with them, but not fully. A staff member(s) also said that we did too much. I am not trying to make you out as some big bad guy or anything, Slug, I just want to point out any flaws in things done, because the winner will become staff and I want a good staff member. Also I would want people to criticize me here, then I can improve on my staff sills, if I become staff here or later on, if.
Sorry I'm late guys....But to answer the first questions...
Who do you think should be fired? Hmm....I really have to go with Janemba on this one. When things came down to it yea, he did step up and made the rules for Fusions, and yes did finish up after Fruiza said he needed to go. But he missed some major things, and he kinda just posted them how the showed up, not in any order. Making it as some of the staff said, ramdom and jumpy.
Did Furiza step up as a good Team Admin? Yes he was. Right after the post was made about what we needed to do he contacted me over AIM, told me what I was doing and then posted about it with every one. He went into detail about what each person was expected to do, and also gave them soemthing that he wanted to see, like for my task, he made sure I inculded in detail how techniques were achive, I think he managed the team very well.
Who was your strongest asset? Strongest Asset...I really can't say. Every one is pointing towards me on that one, but I dont think I was that good. I did as I shoudl of when Furiza was not there, I looked over stuff, making sure it followed his guildlines. I made sure nothing was to confusing, but other then that I dont see why I was that great of an asset. Sure I filled in for Janemba when I thought he was not comming back, but if anyone else on the team talked to him I am sure they would of done the same. I really dont want to say a strongest asset, becuase I don't think it was me, and we all worked really hard on this, we just ended up not winning.
Now, to defend myself against some of the hate XD.
HF17: Yes, I am sure we could of been fine if we kept it in one thread, but then we would of had to do what we are doing with this one, or any huge thread, cotinue to quote or metnion the person you were talking to, which I would prolly forget to mention, and I dont want to quote some ones huge ass post of rules. I dont feel I did that much extra, sure posting the extra threads and then post the rules that might of been to bad, but as for the extra sections I worked on, they needed to get done, and as second in command, I did not see anyone on when I did them, I did them myself.
Boardroom 1 - Hellfighter 17 - 01-30-2005
Oh, yea, annoyed was the word I was looking for earlier. I was annoyed that you set the threads up yourself instead of just asking people to do it in our main thread. I knew why then, but do not remember all of the reasons then, but I think it has to do with that I thought that would be the final copy and it was doen with. I know it didn't turn out to be, but it is what I thought would have happened. Don't you remember me reminding you of the mistakes in the thread you made for me on AIM? I know they were fixable, but I thought it would just stay the way you put them. I know the staff isn't always right, but they knwo what they are looking for and they do a good job, so I'm sure they would have good taste. I know you are just defending yourself, I would expect anyone to. I was actually a bit concerned when we had all of the extra stuff that you posted and others did too, but I thought that we might to better, but now I know to voice my concerns, even if I doubt them.
Boardroom 1 - Tobias - 01-30-2005
Slugs threads didnt hurt us at all, I do think they helped a hell of a lot though. The only thing wrong was him posting your rules in the thread. Even then though, all you had to do was copy and paste then reply, and then edit that one. Easily fixed. Id take scrolling down a little bit over hunting through one thread.
If you have "Garlics Thread" "Twenties Thread" and stuff like that its easier to put the final prduct together too, because you can take it one thread at a time, rather than, again, search for each persons in a maze if posts. Its just more organized.
You have some valid points, but I still disagree that the threads were bad.
Boardroom 1 - Hellfighter 17 - 01-30-2005
I am basically saying that I didn't like him making them. I didn't sya they were all that bad. I am a bit mixed on this subject, that's all.
Boardroom 1 - Kami - 01-30-2005
I didn't like the mulitple posts system for organizing your rules section. It made it hard to follow along, and I'm not sure how you guys managed to keep it all sorted out.
Tell me what the advantage of a system like that has over another way of keeping everything organized, such as posting your contribution in one thread so that everything is in one place.
Boardroom 1 - Tobias - 01-30-2005
Maybe Im wierd then. I find it harder when everything is in one thread.
Boardroom 1 - Burter - 01-30-2005
Quote:Originally posted by Kami
Tell me what the advantage of a system like that has over another way of keeping everything organized, such as posting your contribution in one thread so that everything is in one place.
Putting this on the new page for people to see it
Boardroom 1 - Toshiro - 01-30-2005
I find doing the individual post thing more simplistic becuase, as GJ said, it save's hunting though a load of other post's to find that bit of information.
Sure, Slug could of held them off for the other's to do, but he di what he thought was in the best nature of the team.
Boardroom 1 - Tobias - 01-30-2005
Ill elaborate.
Advantage:
- In one thread you have people trying to help eachother out, but they have to make it clear each time they reply who they are talking to, you dont have that in seperate threads.
- Say the TA wants to put in Krillens bit. He has to hunt it down in the thread, and while its not that hard, its alot easier when all he has to do is go to "Krillen's Task" and its right there.
-People Pay more attention to whats going on with everyones rather than the last one to post thier rules.