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HPV Shots - Violet - 02-10-2007
My only gripe about it is that a) it cures MOST of the types of HPV, but not all, and making a statement that says it prevents all are misleading. b) the government shouldn't really be making mandatory decisions for children when they should consult the parents first, to see how they feel about it, and also to study the drug a bit longer, just in case of more side effects that have laid dormant for a while. Other than that, good advancement, but ultimately, it should be up to the parents.
HPV Shots - Nori - 02-10-2007
For those who don't know, (I don't know if you do Gokua), this shot is only for females.
>_>
HPV Shots - Aero - 02-10-2007
I know. My second post was referring to HF17's.
HPV Shots - Raz - 02-10-2007
Quote:Originally posted by Gokua
Then why are condoms out? They promote sex. If there were no condoms, less teenagers would have sex. Guaranteed.
I doubt that, seriously I do. What teenagers lack is a sense of morality and the dignity of being a virgin instead of giving into every little sexual temptation thrown their way. My girlfriend and I have been in countless situations where we could have ended up having sex though we've both made a pact to remain virgins till marriage. I could rant about how youth around the world has declined in family values and thinks of sex as no more then a pass time benefit while in a relationship... but I won't. /unrelated topic
Violet's got a point, why shoot up the country when you aren't able to cure it all? Nevertheless that it might expose some to side effects that might not of have been foreseen. Though if it does protect against cancer then... *Shrugs*
HPV Shots - Aero - 02-10-2007
There would be less girls willing to simply open their legs so easily. For example, I went over a friends house. A girl was there. Next thing you know my friend asks her if he can do it. She agrees. Next thing you know, she's getting DP'd.
If condoms weren't allowed, I wouldn't have touched that freak, and my friend probably wouldn't have either.
Therefore, less guys would do easy girls, because they wouldn't trust them.
HPV Shots - Raz - 02-10-2007
Quote:I could rant about how youth around the world has declined in family values and thinks of sex as no more then a pass time benefit while in a relationship (or a quick way to blow off/take in some baby batter)... but I won't.
HPV Shots - Yamu - 02-10-2007
Quote:Originally posted by Hell Fighter 17
A friend is getting a paper he wrote on this put in the paper. It was about how parents are against it giving the idea of promiscuous activity, as Yamu had brought up earlier. He was of the same stance of Yamu, but I said, and still say, that you cannot neglect the possibility that it might give teenagers the idea that they can have sex more freely. Not to a great extent, but it could. I do not believe that this should be the only reason to not allow it, though, but to brush off that possibility seems to hasty to me.
I dislike this stance because it treats humanity at its lowest common denominator. Teenagers are not stupid and should not be treated that way. Kids know the risks associated with sex: pregnancy, STDs, and the need to snuggle afterwards. I have no sympathy for those who receive one of the side effects of intercourse.
If someone truly believes a single shot designed to protect them from one vd makes them invincible, then they deserve the rude awakening coming to their way. Instead of fearing their kids running wild parents should take more time in raising their kids into balanced young adults who can make educated decisions and live with the consequences instead of throwing their hands up in the air and acting like they can do nothing to help their kids and that a vaccine will encourage promiscuous activity.
Don't get me started on pot PSAs...
HPV Shots - Grandpa Gohan - 02-10-2007
Quote:Originally posted by Gokua
There would be less girls willing to simply open their legs so easily. For example, I went over a friends house. A girl was there. Next thing you know my friend asks her if he can do it. She agrees. Next thing you know, she's getting DP'd.
If condoms weren't allowed, I wouldn't have touched that freak, and my friend probably wouldn't have either.
Therefore, less guys would do easy girls, because they wouldn't trust them.
Bullshit. You are giving humanity, nevermind guys in general way too much credit. Condoms are out to promote SAFE sex, they know they can't prevent teens altogether from having sex, but would much rather keep them safe.
Topic at hand: Eh, I really haven't heard anything about it. So at this point, I am nuetral, people will get it, other people wont. I think after awhile and some more testing, people wont be so quick to promote negativity about it, since it seems like a perfectly good vaccine.
Akane: You think you got problems? I'm going to start donating plasma soon, so I get stuck in the arm twice a week for about 45minutes each time. Anyhow, I would lecture you on what not to do, but I suppose its just something you have to get used to.
HPV Shots - Hellfighter 17 - 02-10-2007
Quote:Originally posted by GokuaAre condoms issued by the government? Also, Texas just teahces abstinence.
Then why are condoms out? They promote sex. If there were no condoms, less teenagers would have sex. Guaranteed.
HPV Shots - Nori - 02-10-2007
Quote:Originally posted by Grandpa Gohan
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Akane: You think you got problems? I'm going to start donating plasma soon, so I get stuck in the arm twice a week for about 45minutes each time. Anyhow, I would lecture you on what not to do, but I suppose its just something you have to get used to.
Ouch, bit time.
Lets face it. Getting rid of Condoms wouldn't help get rid of sex, at all. Humans have always been lust filled, and it would continue to be so even if safe sex doesn't exist.
I'll personally just continue to do what I do, and not have sex. =/
HPV Shots - Vegeta - 02-10-2007
I'm pretty sure media has way more of an effect on sexual activty in teenagers than the availability of condoms. Also, children exposed to pornography are more likely to become sexually active at a younger age than children who are not. We're a society who firmly believes in "out of sight, out of mind" who continues to ignore the problem. The signals sent to children are that it's okay to screw whomever you want with absolutely zero consequences. I really wish it would become un-taboo and someone could set them straight.
If there were no condoms there would be more unwanted pregnancy. Guaranteed.
I hate it when schools only teach abstinence. Kids are going to screw around so why not teach them how to do it safely?
@Gpa Gohan: Don't you get paid for plasma? If so, what are you whining about?
HPV Shots - Grandpa Gohan - 02-10-2007
Quote:Originally posted by Waffuru
I'm pretty sure media has way more of an effect on sexual activty in teenagers than the availability of condoms. Also, children exposed to pornography are more likely to become sexually active at a younger age than children who are not. We're a society who firmly believes in "out of sight, out of mind" who continues to ignore the problem. The signals sent to children are that it's okay to screw whomever you want with absolutely zero consequences. I really wish it would become un-taboo and someone could set them straight.
If there were no condoms there would be more unwanted pregnancy. Guaranteed.
I hate it when schools only teach abstinence. Kids are going to screw around so why not teach them how to do it safely?
@Gpa Gohan: Don't you get paid for plasma? If so, what are you whining about?
I do, and I wasn't whining, just saying that if your scared of 3shots over x ammount of time, think about how it would be getting a shot twice a week, in which the needle stays in your arm for 45~60min.
Sex being taboo in America isnt helping anything, honestly. I feel like the FCC is like overprotective mothers at the PTA or something. I honestly just wanna slap them around. I think we'd find a major decline in the problems with had now if 1) they put it out in the open(not taboo), and 2) make kids go through more than just a quater or semester in sex ed. Hell at the very least make it more comprehensive.
I also have to disagree Waff, 'least in my case. I was exposed to pornogaphy before I was 11 and I remain a virgin to this day =\
HPV Shots - Vegeta - 02-10-2007
Quote:Originally posted by Grandpa Gohan
I also have to disagree Waff, 'least in my case. I was exposed to pornogaphy before I was 11 and I remain a virgin to this day =\
Eh, I don't really agree either. I read it in some study recently. It's not really important.