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The Like/Hate Thread - Kazuya - 08-12-2009

Looks good. Idk if its just me or what but i was digging the font artwork they used throughout the vid. Might incorporate that somewhere.

LIKE: TOMORROW WOOT. Going to chicago!

The Like/Hate Thread - Jonathan Meer - 08-12-2009

Magic: The Gathering sucks ass. It's all luck.

3 Mana enchantments can totally immobilize a monster I summon and poison it, sapping away my life at 1 per turn.

At least Yugioh is balanced.

The Like/Hate Thread - Ashe - 08-12-2009

Jonathan Meer Wrote:Magic: The Gathering sucks ass. It's all luck.

3 Mana enchantments can totally immobilize a monster I summon and poison it, sapping away my life at 1 per turn.

At least Yugioh is balanced.

Pretty decent attempt at trolling, I have to admit.

The Like/Hate Thread - Jonathan Meer - 08-13-2009

I was being dead serious.

I'm playing the game through decks that a person who came on vacation with us brought/made. Through this person's deck-building abilities, the game sucks.

This could very likely be the fault of the person's deck-building abilities.

Does still feel more shitty than Yugioh though, though that could be because I haven't gotten through to the deeper strategy of it.

The Like/Hate Thread - Ashe - 08-13-2009

Ok, I don't really feel that Pillory of the Sleepless, a card that saw zero tournament play outside of block, as being overpowered.

Really though, if its entirely luck, I'd say only in the vacuum that makes poker entirely luck. That one that causes the same players to consistently be at the head of the field every tournament.

The Like/Hate Thread - Kazuya - 08-13-2009

hate; that its 1:30 in the morning and I'm wide fucking awake. and I've been laying in bed trying to sleep for the past hour and a half. I gotta be up at 4:30 and i cant freakin sleeeeheeeheeeepppppp.

The Like/Hate Thread - Jonathan Meer - 08-13-2009

Touché Ashe.

I was hoping to piss you off into a long, passionate (that is, not boring), and detailed explanation about the intricacies of Magic, which I could read so that I could kick this guy's ass.

You didn't deliver. =(

The Like/Hate Thread - Josh - 08-13-2009

Screw both Yugioh and Magic, long live Pokemon!

The Like/Hate Thread - Sol - 08-13-2009

Love: THIS! http://www.videopizza.biz/

I honestly I want to buy that video. Hosting a big drunken party and watching everyone's "WTF faces" when they see a spinning pizza pie on my TV with that awesome music would be the greatest thing ever.

The Like/Hate Thread - Super Buu - 08-13-2009

As an avid pizza lover, I find it both soothing and .... counter-soothing. Frustrating, even.

The Like/Hate Thread - Ashe - 08-13-2009

Jonathan Meer Wrote:Touché Ashe.

I was hoping to piss you off into a long, passionate (that is, not boring), and detailed explanation about the intricacies of Magic, which I could read so that I could kick this guy's ass.

You didn't deliver. =(

Haha... That's why I made my trolling comment. Because your first post appeared while I was online and I immediately felt the urge to say stuff.

Anyway, I'm guessing the guy has a casual Orzhov deck full of stuff like Blind Hunter or other things that drain life off his opponent into himself. Without knowing what type of deck you are playing, its kinda hard to give any advice. I can only really suggest that for Pillory of the Sleepless that you use any card with the words "Destroy" and "enchantment" on it. If he's playing those walls they use, I think its called Souls of the Faultless or something equally "gothic" (that's kinda the theme that particular guild went for in regards to the guild setting they used for that set/block), then hold your removal for those so you can get in there.

If he gave you a deck with nothing but a few creatures and no removal/counterspells/etc some combination of control cards, then punch him in the face. And I hope he's not playing Angel of Despair (5/5 flying, cost something near 7 or 8 mana mixing black and white, when it comes into play it destroys a target permanent).

Part of it is going to depend though entirely on if he gave you a deck tailored to lose to his, but throw up some bits on the deck you are using and I'll try to help out. If you are playing some type of burn deck or red based deck, don't throw any of the burn spells to the face. Always use them to get his creatures off the board. Only throw them at his face if you are stockpiling them to the point where you can mathmatically win.

The biggest thing to keep in mind is called "card advantage". That essentially means that you want to get deeper into your deck than he does (meaning if you end the game with 28 cards left in your deck and he has 36, you have had access to 8 more of your spells than he has, meaning 8 more options and ways to affect the game). It also means that if you do something, you want to think of what it took to get there. Wrath of God (Destroys all creatures) when he has four creatures on the board is a 4 for 1. Meaning you got rid of four of his cards (meaning four turns worth of draws and tapping mana to play them) for a single card costing 4 mana. Playing stuff like Pillory or Pacifism counts as removal too, as a 1 for 1 (unless they have put some type of beneficial enchantment onto their guy, let's just say Holy Strength or something that boost there guy) which then means you have nullified 2 cards with 1 card. Their investment becomes worth less.

Get the most out of each card they play, and don't be that guy that does something like Dark Ritual (instant, adds three black to your pool), another Dark Ritual, and another Dark Ritual (totaling to 7 black) to drop something like Lord of the Pit (7/7 flying for 7 that forces you to either sac a creature that isn't him during your upkeep or tap him and take 7 damage from him, really bad card in today's game) just to have the opponent untap and play Pacifism (two mana white enchantment that does like Pillory minus the life loss effect) on it (essentially getting rid of four cards with one card; that is three Dark Rits and the Pitlord, leaving you to STILL have to pay that upkeep of saccing a guy or taking 7 damage).

EDIT: Sufficiently nerdy enough?

The Like/Hate Thread - Celena - 08-13-2009

How you can write all that yet not find the urge to submit a 300 word RP is beyond me.

The Like/Hate Thread - Jonathan Meer - 08-13-2009

That was impressive but I didn't understand any of it.

He's got a Green deck which has a bunch of Wurms. He's got a Red deck which Burns like crazy and I love it (Hostility ftw; I killed him last time with 9 3/1 tokens in one turn). He's got a Sliver deck with like 15 Slivers in it (he said it's illegal). He's got a Blue deck which sucks shit I think.

Strategy is way different than Yugioh. In Yugioh, it's all about card balance, not deck depth.

The Like/Hate Thread - Ashe - 08-13-2009

Don't waste your time with that green deck. Large creatures with no form of evasion rarely get anything done.

I don't know what would be "illegal" about a Sliver deck. (Just a foreward, legality means if its able to be used in specific tournament environments). A Sliver deck is in no way legal for the current Standard/Type2 rotation, and mostly isn't legal for Extended (some slivers are, it depends on how long ago they printed specific ones as the rotations happen by blocks, which is the three sets that were made to work together, example being Ravnica/Guildpact/Dissension or ShardsOfAlara/Conflux/AlaraReborn.) I wouldn't say that deck is super powerful other than that you have to remove certain creatures asap. By that I mean truly get them the fuck off the field, because of their sharing ability. Not Pacifism effects.

Red should probably be what you should play. Just keep his guys off the field first. Use your creatures to do damage to the face, and then only aim your burn at his face if he's within lethal range. Play this exactly like chess, thinking turns ahead. Look at your board and think "He has his blockers tapped, so I can get in 6 points right now, I'll drop this guy after combat, he'll swing back with his guys and if I don't block I'll take 7, but that let's my guy live so when he attacks with the others next turn, I'll do 8 more and then throw two Lightning Bolts at him for the last 6. But if, when he attacks with his guys, he decides to play Giant Growth or something to make his guys bigger and possibly kill me, (or even if he holds his guys back to block some of mine), then I'll have to throw the bolts at the creatures in response and then use an extra turn to kill him. That means we'll both have an extra card to shake things up, so let's try to keep him from getting that turn."

EDIT: By the way, that blue deck, due to the nature of blue, is potentially he best deck he has, depending on the build. It will likely lose most games against the red burn though simply because that's a bad matchup for it (like if I'm playing an anti-creature deck and you are playing creatureless combo that kills me through something like a massive fireball in one turn).

The Like/Hate Thread - Kaden - 08-13-2009

This is really funny.

My brother is home for, like, a week and apparently got on some massive magic kick. We've spent the past two days basically just playing magic.

The Like/Hate Thread - Ashe - 08-14-2009

I've been watching tournament videos of the recent Nationals event and stuff, but the game is fun as hell at times. And for casual, they are putting out some other cool stuff like this thing called Planechase, something for casual or multiplayer games that essentially has you planeswalking to different planes during the duel so that you have different effects going on during it. Sounds like a blast.

The Like/Hate Thread - Vad - 08-14-2009

Everything you're describing seriously sounds like something found on an Acid trip. >.> From stories I've heard of course.

The Like/Hate Thread - Ashe - 08-14-2009

Vad Wrote:Everything you're describing seriously sounds like something found on an Acid trip. >.> From stories I've heard of course.

I wouldn't place what I've described as that awesome.

The Like/Hate Thread - Vad - 08-14-2009

Well your previous post with the planes and different areas with different effects. My mind just went on that trip. xD

The Like/Hate Thread - Vad - 08-14-2009

Bil Baer Jaxx Wrote:that Doctor Parnassus shit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXv9Kgb59xM

I liked the idea of having Heath's role be split between 2 different characters, but apparently someone liked 4 different characters more. Looks awesome.

Colin Farrell is a god, don't be hatin'.


Was reading about Ledger and this movie. Apparently he couldn't sleep well during the filming at all. It's fucking amazing to see this amazing actor give such a great performance from what I've seen in the trailer on 2 hours a sleep a night.

Damn.