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Sneak Preview: Races - Dehan - 03-09-2007
Well just in case we're allowed to post our images here I'm going to do it...if we're not and I'm just confused please don't sodomize me...at least not without lube.
Anyway admins/mods or whomever is in charge of this, I want to use two images, basically I'll be going from young to old in my roleplays. The first image is of my character's young self...
![[Image: YoungDehan.jpg]](http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a252/jokerwild/YoungDehan.jpg)
Yep Riley from The Boondocks.
![[Image: BlackSaiyan_Sean-1.jpg]](http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a252/jokerwild/BlackSaiyan_Sean-1.jpg)
The second will basically be his young adult form/final form. The guy is Sean from Street Fighter III. Thanks in advance and let me know what the deal is.
Sneak Preview: Races - Burter - 03-09-2007
Sorry guys. For now, these are the only races you get. We arn't gonna argue which is and isn't worthy of a race. If you want a special race, you can be Generic, which will have the same stuff as humans
Sneak Preview: Races - Burter - 03-09-2007
Yes, Max
Sneak Preview: Races - Burter - 03-09-2007
Yes, generics have power-ups/abilities too. All the races are equal, just different.
Sneak Preview: Races - Raditzu - 03-09-2007
Quote:Originally posted by Super Buu
For the record, next time just tell me. I'd rather know sooner than later.
On the bright side, I might use it as canon for DBA. So it's not all wasted. =)
We hadn't really decided that until I just posted it.
You were informed as soon as the decision was made.
Sneak Preview: Races - Piccolo Daimoun - 03-09-2007
Kagome's younger brother from Inuyasha.
![[Image: pers_14.jpg]](http://www.inuyasha.us/img/doppiatori/pers_14.jpg)
Sneak Preview: Races - Raditzu - 03-09-2007
Did you seriously think we wouldn't have things balanced out?
Sneak Preview: Races - Hellfighter 17 - 03-09-2007
Do you mean powerwise? It's important to specifiy.
Sneak Preview: Races - Burter - 03-09-2007
Quote:What will the Humans/Custom Race(s) have that will make them on an even keel with, say, Saiyans?
You know we're not revealing details yet.
@HF:
They're all equal. They all have pros and cons that make them balanced.
Sneak Preview: Races - Hellfighter 17 - 03-09-2007
He could have meant roleplay-likeability-wise, in which case it would depend on the person. I actually thought that's what he meant at first.
Sneak Preview: Races - Burter - 03-09-2007
Oh, well, yea. That's totally dependant on the person's opinion
Sneak Preview: Races - Raditzu - 03-09-2007
Quote:Originally posted by Borgos
Quote:Originally posted by Raditzu
Did you seriously think we wouldn't have things balanced out?
WoW always tells everyone THEY have things balanced out, and you know damned WELL the Horde are PWNing every server known to man on that MMORPG....
Just goes to show you, even people who get PAID to provide kickass service can sometimes overlook something that would tip the scales.
The races having their racial traits is not the issue. My main question is this:
What will the Humans/Custom Race(s) have that will make them on an even keel with, say, Saiyans?
The fact that we're not getting paid should tell you that we're not going to glaze over something. We're going this because we want and we're going to do it right.
Like Burter said, we're not giving out specifics. The races are balanced. Either believe us or don't, but that's what you're getting.
"Humans" are something of a special case in the races. They will probably comprise the largest percentage of the population, in terms of player-made characters and so we need to provide the most versatile set of abilities and powerups as we could. Its damn easy with saiyans, because we can say "their hair turns yellow, eyes turn green, and they get a bunch of power." Not all "humans" will have hair. Hell, there could be a bunch of humans without eyes.
The point I'm getting at is this: "humans" will probably seem very "blah." They're not. Saiyans will probably seem too strong. They're not.
Statistically, Saiyans probably have an edge over most of the races (no, I haven't done the exact math and no, I'm not going to) and we'll probably get a bunch of people immediatly whining about how Namekians and Changelings aren't as strong as Saiyans because they're not willing to look at anything other than the raw numbers that they see by glazing over the "powerups" section of the abilities page.
Regardless of the stats, or racial abilities, or anything else, there is always going to be a factor that we have no possible way of taking into account: player skills. If you're just flat-out a better writer, then yeah, you'll probably win. We have provided most races with plenty of opportunities for players to exploit their writing abilities. In generaly, those opportunities have come at the cost of raw statistical power. So, saiyans may have the strongest powerup, but they'll probably seem far less interesting to a talented writer than, say, Arlians will.
EDIT: Something I want to point out. Max, you phrased your question as if Saiyans are better than "Humans." They're not. No race is the best and no race is the worst. If you think in terms of Saiyans being the strongest for no reason other than you think Saiyans are the strongest, then there's a good chance that nothing we say will change your mind. We have provided no one with any statistical information that would lead you to believe that, for example, Saiyans are stronger than "Humans" so please don't think like that. As we have said (many, many, many times) are the races are on equal footing. It will be up to the player, however, to find that footing for themselves.
EDIT2: Please, for the love of my sanity, don't make any assumptions based on what I just said. I used saiyans and arlians as an example earlier. Does that mean that saiyans are, for a fact, stronger than arlians? No. It means jack shit. It was an example. I'm usually pretty good at knowing when to be blunt. Unless I go out of my way to say "saiyans are stronger than everyone else" then I don't mean that. None of you are psychic and none of you know exactly what I was thinking as I wrote any of this, so I really don't want to see any quotes of this posts followed by "well I guess this means there's no reason to be an Arlian" or any other nonsense like that. Thank you.
Sneak Preview: Races - Belle Hibiki - 03-09-2007
What about half-breeds? Will they simply choose and then emulate the race of one of their parents at creation?
Sneak Preview: Races - Burter - 03-09-2007
Yea. If you're half-saiyan half-human, you would pick one of those races to be your official race
Sneak Preview: Races - Drake - 03-09-2007
To add onto Raditsu's post, you have to realize also that unbalancing of races can occur because the people who develop the game don't always play it as well, or they don't have the authority to tweak or add things on their own accord. When discussing the races, each member of staff had a race or races that they liked over another race, to get to the point where we could all agree on how the races ended up was a result of us all agreeing that the races were balanced from our perspective view points.
Sneak Preview: Races - Belle Hibiki - 03-09-2007
Pic - called, in case I decide to go custom ever.
![[Image: tasuki.jpg]](http://www.geocities.com/crobazz/tasuki.jpg)
Sneak Preview: Races - Vegeta Jr - 03-09-2007
Quote:Originally posted by Coola*spells it out* Yes, this thread is fine. As long as you agree I might use that picture for the site.
Quote:Originally posted by AquaThat was what I meant.
Picture we post of ourself... where? In this thread? Or an official one to come?
And guys - All races have their own unique things. Humans/Generic Races have just as many special things as say Saiyans.
Sneak Preview: Races - Vegeta Jr - 03-09-2007
Maybe, maybe not. Too many hobbies, too little time currently. Lots of time goes into my work, MMORPG's, tabletop RPGing and going out. The coming weeks I have to make a lot of time free to code things up for the new things as well. Busybusy.
Sneak Preview: Races - Kirano - 03-09-2007
Just to clarify, this isn't the official picture posting thread. According to VJ.
Sneak Preview: Races - Spencinator - 03-09-2007
Quote:Originally posted by Vegeta JrThank you VJ. ^_^
Maybe, maybe not. Too many hobbies, too little time currently. Lots of time goes into my work, MMORPG's, tabletop RPGing and going out. The coming weeks I have to make a lot of time free to code things up for the new things as well. Busybusy.