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Champions - Jarka - 12-30-2011

Smartcasting is awesome.


Champions - Mal Nova - 12-31-2011

Mal Nova Wrote:DUMDUMDUM!!!! FIDDLE TIME!

How should his masteries go?(I have them at 19/0/11) Should i put Spell vamp on him now that we have those runes?

And what about items?

Is his Items diff when if comes to Jungle and not jungle?

Tryg? Kaden?


Champions - Mr. Zhu - 12-31-2011

Items should always be Hourglass, Deathcap and Void Staff, everything else is quite irrelevant.


Champions - Kaden - 01-01-2012

Mr. Zhu Wrote:Items should always be Hourglass, Deathcap and Void Staff

^

In that order, too.


Champions - Mal Nova - 01-01-2012

What about Masteries?

You know this guy is very difficult for me? IM use to being all up in the mix. Not holding back and waiting for the right timing =P


Champions - Jarka - 01-01-2012

Mal Nova Wrote:What about Masteries?

You know this guy is very difficult for me? IM use to being all up in the mix. Not holding back and waiting for the right timing =P

For jungling, 21/0/9 and start with an amplifying tome is probably fine. W > Q > E for skills. Haven't done him in the new jungle, though.

He can be very in your face, especially with smartcasting. E, Q, W combo will have a champ completely helpless while the laners help smack them around. You don't just have to wait for your ult for a gank, although perfect timing on that feels [I]so good.[/I]


Champions - Tyr - 01-01-2012

Hey guys, stumbled upon this counter-pick chart for all your serious draft gaming needs.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?hl=en_US%5D&key=0Aq-068L0cPIZdHdZR3JtaXlOdTZWQjJVb3FoUVZLM1E&toomany=true


Champions - Jonathan Meer - 01-01-2012

NUMERO UNO COUNTER TO NASUS IS GAREN

Well, that settles it. gg


Champions - Mr. Zhu - 01-01-2012

Jonathan Meer Wrote:NUMERO UNO COUNTER TO NASUS IS GAREN

Well, that settles it. gg

They also said WK counters Panth, in which I lol'd.


Champions - Jarka - 01-01-2012

Tyr Wrote:Hey guys, stumbled upon this counter-pick chart for all your serious draft gaming needs.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?hl=en_US%5D&key=0Aq-068L0cPIZdHdZR3JtaXlOdTZWQjJVb3FoUVZLM1E&toomany=true

Argue as some might over some of the champ picks, I really appreciate the counter mechanic column.


Champions - Mal Nova - 01-01-2012

Thats a biased... and actually it should be... Teemo/Caitlyn then Garen


Champions - Mal Nova - 01-01-2012

So... I think I just found an awesome build for Yi while on my smurF account...

Youmans blade
Shurlieas
Trinity
Hextech
Attackspeed boots
Infinity Edge( I didnt get to finish thisbut OMG if I could)

I'm not sure if its a troll build or if it works... but what do you think?


Champions - Tyr - 01-01-2012

Mr. Zhu Wrote:They also said WK counters Panth, in which I lol'd.
I don't see how it's far off though. Considering Pantheon's most useful skills are single target, wouldn't it be really easy to just bait him into using one on the clone and then WK can just lay down the smackdown?


Champions - Mr. Zhu - 01-01-2012

Tyr Wrote:I don't see how it's far off though. Considering Pantheon's most useful skills are single target, wouldn't it be really easy to just bait him into using one on the clone and then WK can just lay down the smackdown?

Aegis blocks Q. Wukong's E dash cast animation makes him subject to an entire HSS cast. His stealth is on a higher cooldown than the total CD of 4 or 5 spears. His ult is good against Pantheon, but that's as far as he goes in terms of countering Pantheon.


Champions - Tyr - 01-02-2012

But the E gives him attack speed sufficient enough to dash up and hit once then use Q as it resets his attack animation and can't the W be used to block any damage attempt with the Aegis if the Wukong with a 5 sec difference and presumably no CDR on either (considering they both use mana like a motherfucker).

I dunno, I can see Wukong take Panth. I just did a Wukong against Yorick though, fuck Yorick. Yorick can fuck right off back into never getting played again so I don't have to fight him.


Champions - Mr. Zhu - 01-02-2012

Tyr Wrote:But the E gives him attack speed sufficient enough to dash up and hit once then use Q as it resets his attack animation and can't the W be used to block any damage attempt with the Aegis if the Wukong with a 5 sec difference and presumably no CDR on either (considering they both use mana like a motherfucker).

Wukong E's Panth, I cast my HSS as his animation casts, WK normal attacks once to break passive, I W him and regain passive, spear him and auto attack him. His Q hits my second passive proc. I spear him again as he backs away from the exchange or he uses W to run away. Who do you think wins trade?


Champions - Mal Nova - 01-02-2012

...Yorick sucks


Champions - Jonathan Meer - 01-02-2012

Nope.


Champions - Mal Nova - 01-02-2012

Mal Nova Wrote:...Yorick sucks

.


Champions - Rafael - 01-02-2012

Yorick is amazingly powerful in lane. Amazingly. afterwards he's eh depending on whether he got fed in lane, but there isn't a long list of people who beat his lane.