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Champions - Mal Nova - 01-13-2012
I dont fully agree...The new passive adds a third with his Ult and Rageblade.
Who knows his health ratio might be changed as well. The only thing that the health passive changes, is hoping not to get burst focused =D
Champions - Kaden - 01-13-2012
I kinda agree with Mal. The point of Jax was to be a one-on-one duelist who's susceptible to magic. That's been his thing since Beta. Giving him a massive health pool was kind of counter-productive toward meeting that goal.
Champions - Mal Nova - 01-13-2012
The E's dodge, is pretty cool, and as long as you have Q on CD(And can be cool even if you dont have it on CD against anyone thats not a range/Yi, you can almost always stun someone. It's a what 2 or 3 second dodge? This may depend on how much you have in it... but you can start it in bush... and leap and boom. Almost like a Fiddle Ult.
They put on the movement to give warning. They wont nerf his numbers.
Plus no one knows what they are gonna do with the Ninja Taibi. For some reason they still suggest it on him.
Champions - Piper Juunanagou - 01-14-2012
I always thought the irritating thing about Jax was that he could get 1000+ free health without health items.
1000+ less health on any champ sucks. But I suppose he'll get something in other areas. But shrug. I suppose I'll save my final opinion until I see numbers, I suppose.
Champions - Kaden - 01-14-2012
Mal Nova Wrote:They put on the movement to give warning. They wont nerf his numbers.
"Nerf" is a relative term. He's getting an AD/AP steroid. I won't be surprise if that plays a part in his numbers getting juggled around a bit.
Mal Nova Wrote:Plus no one knows what they are gonna do with the Ninja Taibi. For some reason they still suggest it on him.
Tabi will reduce the damage from non-tower auto-attacks by a %. I think 15%, actually.
Champions - Belle Hibiki - 01-14-2012
I'm assuming that stacks multiplicatively with armor, not additive.
Sounds like a super nice item for people that invest in a splash of armor rather than going whole hog.
Champions - Kaden - 01-14-2012
I hope so. Not sure, though.
Ideally it would work like Thornmail and apply the effect before armor is factored.
Champions - Kaden - 01-14-2012
Oh yeah, and for those who missed it in the Spotlight/Patch Preview, Jax can dodge towers again.
Champions - Orion - 01-14-2012
Dodging towers is teh ghei
Just had an amazing game with Cho. Build him right and he's a full tank with amazing damage output.
Champions - Mal Nova - 01-14-2012
This wont last...
But yeah.. Err Anzekay? Speak about Riven Debuffs?
I'd like to start twisting with Jax uin Jungle if Someone wants to help me?
Champions - Anzekay - 01-14-2012
Need numbers.
I found it funny that the video had her laning against Udyr, since Udyr should never lose a lane to Riven TBH
Champions - Mal Nova - 01-14-2012
Heheheheehheheheheh
O knew I'd get a ryze out of that shit =P
Champions - Anzekay - 01-14-2012
That's not to say she isn't super strong in lane against a good number of champions. I've been saying she's secretly OP for weeks!
Just, not really against Udyr.
Champions - Tyr - 01-14-2012
Kaden Wrote:Oh yeah, and for those who missed it in the Spotlight/Patch Preview, Jax can dodge towers again.YAY!
Now bring Xin Zhao back who solos teams!
(j/k, with the activation I find it fair enough because 1v1 top it's the only reliable way to 100% guarantee you will dodge attacks)
Champions - Kaden - 01-14-2012
Anzekay Wrote:I've been saying she's secretly OP for weeks!
Hasn't been a secret. Anyone paying any attention to streams, scrims, or the more recent tournaments knows she's stupidly strong.
Udyr/Riven isn't a lane that either of them should lose, really. It should be a farm-off. The only way the Riven loses that lane is if she doesn't stun the approaching bear-form Udyr. And if that's the case she deserves to lose that lane anyway.
Champions - Jonathan Meer - 01-14-2012
Pretty much all Udyr/X lanes are safe farm lanes. At least for Udyr.
Champions - Mr. Zhu - 01-14-2012
Pantheon is fucked. Assuming Tabi works for spear shot and HSS, as if AD casters weren't already underpowered as they were. Oh well, we'll have to see if things that proc are considered "auto-attack" related.
Edit: 15% damage reduction on Tabi for 850? Goodbye, Renekton, Pantheon, Riven, Udyr, GP, Tryn, Wukong top. It was fun while it lasted. Also, jungler boots #1 for sure.
Champions - Anzekay - 01-14-2012
Kaden Wrote:Hasn't been a secret. Anyone paying any attention to streams, scrims, or the more recent tournaments knows she's stupidly strong.
Udyr/Riven isn't a lane that either of them should lose, really. It should be a farm-off. The only way the Riven loses that lane is if she doesn't stun the approaching bear-form Udyr. And if that's the case she deserves to lose that lane anyway.
I mean since the first hotfix. Since before she started seeing major play on streams or tournaments, and it was only talked about occasionally on a few streams or forums here and there. Basically, before it was suddenly all over the official forums and fansites.
I just lucked out and saw someone playing her (A CLG person I think?) quite a while ago and copied their builds.
I really want to know what they are going to do with her stun. Can't really say much until we see numbers though.
Champions - Kaden - 01-15-2012
Mr. Zhu Wrote:Pantheon is fucked. Assuming Tabi works for spear shot and HSS, as if AD casters weren't already underpowered as they were. Oh well, we'll have to see if things that proc are considered "auto-attack" related.
It is specifically AA.
Champions - Ashe - 01-15-2012
Mr. Zhu Wrote:Pantheon is fucked. Assuming Tabi works for spear shot and HSS, as if AD casters weren't already underpowered as they were. Oh well, we'll have to see if things that proc are considered "auto-attack" related.
Edit: 15% damage reduction on Tabi for 850? Goodbye, Renekton, Pantheon, Riven, Udyr, GP, Tryn, Wukong top. It was fun while it lasted. Also, jungler boots #1 for sure.
NONE of those are "auto-attacks" except Trynd, what are you talking about?