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yay or nay - The Not Cool Not Tapion - 06-23-2008
I like them but I don't love them. They aren't the best and they aren't the worst. I can listen to them but I don't choose to listen to them.
yay or nay - Bojack - 06-23-2008
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ugh
my thoughts when I get home
yay or nay - Bojack - 06-23-2008
Well, to spare the 3 pages of post, let me just pose a question:
Would Eminem have been as successful were he not white?
yay or nay - Saz - 06-23-2008
Probable not AS successful. His style of rapping, I don't know, I just couldn't imagine a black man singing his songs. He was just a breath of fresh air at the time he came on the scene.
yay or nay - Bojack - 06-23-2008
Sazuaa Wrote:His style of rapping, I don't know, I just couldn't imagine a black man singing his songs.
Exactly my point!
Why?
Because he's not hip hop. Take away the music and all you have is a hardcore metal song, all you have is some emo wailing about how much he hates his mother. Wtf? Eminem, you fail. Big time.
Don't get me wrong, he is talented (albeit overrated), and I do enjoy some of his songs (Stan, Remember Me?, Lose Yourself), and he is one of, if not my favorite freestylers. But you have his songs, these aggressive piles of uncombed shit, dealing with a subject matter that is the retard's version of "socially aware". 3 years after Columbine, he releases Marshall Mathers LP, which had like 3 songs that vividly alluded to trench-coat wearing teens and shooting up bullies. The first fucking track he talks about raping his mother (what the hell?):
(AH!) Shut up slut, you're causing too much chaos
Just bend over and take it like a slut, OK Ma?
"Oh, now he's raping his own mother, abusing a whore,
snorting coke, and we gave him the Rolling Stone cover?"
Then he goes on to go on a Cannibal Corpse-esque run of free-associative lyric:
Texas Chainsaw, left his brains all
dangling from his neck, while his head barely hangs on
Blood, guts, guns, cuts
Knives, lives, wives, nuns, sluts
Oh yeah... that is so hip hop. That's right. Raise the roof. Throw some D's on that bitch. Get hype in this mofo.
No.
He raps about what he knows will sell, and what people dont want to hear. Just to make the news, just to have this perpetual propaganda machine working in his favor.
Josh: "Hey! Did you hear that new Eminem track? He raped his mom, yo!"
Richard: "Word."
He's an outlet for suburban youth that want to feel accepted when they sag their pants and talk about how whitey is keeping them down. He raps about Vicaden. Nobody from the hood uses Vicaden you stupid little shit.
yay or nay - Violet - 06-23-2008
Um, that's rap, not Hip Hop. If I remember correctly, both genres are related, not the same thing.
Rap tends to be a little more hardcore with its lyrical imagery, for example, one of my favorite rap groups, Bone Thugs:
Quote:[2Pac]
Nigga we doin this shit from Cleveland to LA
nigga whatever you niggas want we bringing it
Thug Luv nigga what time is it yo
I don't give a fuck where you lay at
it's time to slay these bitch made niggas
[Bizzy-overlapping Pac]
Pac Pac run wit us run wit us run wit us
Pac Pac run wit us Pac and RIP with Thug Luv
[2Pac]
they ain't even knowing what type of niggas we is
where my thugs at Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
I know you niggas been waiting for this shit for a long time
well here it is nigga here it is what you gone do with it
[Bizzy]
Well I must be close to the Armageddon lord you know
That I won't fly that lesson you taught me to pull out my wesson you brought
And am I stressing it softly get 'em up off me cause all
We wanted was harmony been bombing 'em yell up outta my ghetto
I want settle get on my level they can't
Stop me or drop me nigga they got me fuck naw
Little Pac get schizophrenic and manage to damage all y'all
I'll talk about 'em and you don't really want it
Cause they're cornered and I want 'em to jump up
I'd rather say that we came to shut 'em all down
So quick to test bullet yes declare war
Roll and I'll blow when I get the gun for the murder mo' horror
For what the did it all pause for the cause and I
Fin to pull a nine or pistol little nigga wit mine fuck dem niggas it's on
All y'all fall Bizzy gettin bitches test me bless the floor
In any attempt to arrest me stress me lord
Looking at death with the last of my breath
Follow follow my kids but don't sin in my steps
Yet the weapon is kept with the best of my secrets
Deep in the leaves I'm alone nigga believe
That I can see it if needed an if you really want me in
Well let it be and get the greens and be runnnin up over cleveland
[2Pac]
Hahaha what's poppin nigga
put your motherfucking hand on your strap nigga
Thug Luv nigga we can do this like gangstas
and slug it out or be like punks and punk it out
pull your strap on me nigga and you better kill be thug life baby
I'll probably be punished for hard livin blind to the facts
Thugs is convicts in gods prison hand on the strap
Praying to father please forgive me police be rushing when they see me
I flaunted America's most wanted live on TV life
Pleasure and pain stuck in this game holler my name
We all gone die we bleed through similar veins
You'se explain to me now don't panic when my gun burst
Heard the last jam nigga this ones worse
My nigga bone held the chrome till I came home
Thug Luv playas tell these bitch niggas bring it on
I caught a plane out to Cleveland late last evening
To help my niggas clean up some niggas no longer breathing now
Who you believe in hit the weed and breathe it's a
Cold ass the world them niggas kill you in your sleep
Until they stop me bury murder me or drop me
I got Thug Luv for my nationwide posse feel me
[Layzie]
Little thug from the land nigga never ran
Motherfuckers out to get me they don't understand
It's the #1 nigga out with a nation of niggas
Down to put in some work do some dirt
Fuckin round with the band Bone Thugs N Harmony
Follow down the road we stroll to meet karma
Everything I do it seem to cause drama
Ready for the war like a knight in my armor bomb ya
So quick to test us nigga wanna crash me eat dust
For the love of the lust niggas bustin on us
Hit 'em up with he buck 12 gauge erupt it's the Art Of War
Putting niggas on the floor
when I'm comin through the door bringin nothin but terror
Causing much to the nigga that dared us
trying to put a twist in this thugsta
era Paired up with a nigga like Pac
and a nigga like me gotta stay high
Thug Luv till i die keep my prayer to the sky
but I'm still in the hood smoke and fry
So I beg the lord to save us all escapers of misery
Bless my niggas in penitentiaries soldiers of the century
[Krayzie]
Here to get it told my niggas to get the hell down
Down with the dirt and we don't fuck around
Buck a couple of rounds and if you're passing through then hit the ground
And don't get caught up in the crossfire nigga
Artillery thick and you don't want to get to fuckin with this
I'm straight devil devil not a punk and pretend
I reload buck a little more flee the scene
'fore the po-po even know what you lookin for
They don't know a motherfucker with a leatherface hey
Man she said I ran this way said I ran that way
You hoes'll never know because I got away yeah
A criminal mind a nigga on the level sometimes
so get high and analyze your crime
Directly organized with results you'll be surprised
[Wish]
Oh nigga can you feel the vibe we can ride playa hating niggas you gots to die
It's over wit Bone better leave it alone Mo Thug I'm cracking fuckin domes
Still in the hood where the thugs play fuckin wit nothin but thugs man
Ain't taking no shorts or no losses we crackin them domes around my way
Give it to 'em on another level nigga
get a shovel you can dig a hole bitches is dead
Infrared to the head you can beg but still gone bleed bloody red
Fuck with mine will be see in the moonlight
cause we out ridin looking for you
Better run for cover nigga duck we about to bust
Straight got the Infrared put it on his forehead make some moves
Send flowers straight to his home
put a card in the motherfucker send it to his mama
Tell her he was dead wrong dead wrong gone now he long gone
[Bizzy]
Pac Pac run wit us run wit us run wit us
Pac Pac run wit us Pac and RIP with Thug Luv
Now, it may be just me, but those are a little graphic, perhaps in the same thread of Emimem's shit. They talk about killing, fucking, etc. etc. That's not hip hop, either, and most certainly not hardcore metal.
EDIT:
Quote:He's an outlet for suburban youth that want to feel accepted when they sag their pants and talk about how whitey is keeping them down. He raps about Vicaden. Nobody from the hood uses Vicaden you stupid little shit.
....where the hell've you been? I live smack dab in the middle of the fuckin' hood, and I can't tell you how many people snort vics around here. Its almost as bad as coke and weed. Oo
yay or nay - Dehan - 06-23-2008
*hates everything equally*
yay or nay - Bojack - 06-24-2008
Right. Waaah, I steal Vic out of my mommie's medicine cabinet so I can get "stoned". Then I rape her and shoot up a millionz people.
Em is an emo fag loser. That's right. There's a such thing as that. But not before Em. Em invented it. Who the fuck raps about rape? Why would anyone make a fucking song about how they want to rape anyone, let alone their fucking sister and mother? WTF. =(
Cannibal Corpse is rock's Eminem. They suck too. I'm not discriminating here, I'm not a fan of being extreme for the sake of being extreme. Why... whyyyy would you make a song entitled "White America", other than to get publicity? I don't get it. At all.
Like I said, he's talented. But, for one thing, I don't like his voice, I don't like all the aggressive screamo bullshit he does every other song. My teacher once used a phrase, describing Eminem: "any publicity is good publicity". My sentiments exactly. He pushes the limits on purpose, just to get people talking and buying his shit. That's nothing but an extension of this MTV culture that's obsessed with turning music into a mechanized money making machine. Sux.
yay or nay - Bujin - 06-24-2008
I actually have a list of "emo fag loser" bands/artists.
And Em isn't on it.
yay or nay - Bojack - 06-24-2008
Why not?
yay or nay - Bujin - 06-24-2008
Don't get me wrong, he's still an emo fag loser. Just...not strong enough of an emo fag loser to be on the list.
EDIT: Predicting the next question, My Chemical Romance sits atop my list. Has for years.
yay or nay - Bojack - 06-24-2008
There probably isn't enough room on the list, I agree. But he's like, second string.
yay or nay - Krillin - 06-24-2008
Rap isn't music. Hip Hop is. That's how I distinguish the two.
yay or nay - Waffuru - 06-24-2008
You're all being idiots. :/
yay or nay - Krillin - 06-24-2008
Only today. Yesterday I was an orange Creamsicle.
yay or nay - Waffuru - 06-24-2008
Yum
yay or nay - Dave - 06-24-2008
Okay, em died sooo new round.
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Breaking Benjamin, Go!
yay or nay - Krillin - 06-24-2008
I have a few of their songs.
Nay.
yay or nay - Bojack - 06-24-2008
Haven't really gotten into them, but So Cold was awesome. And that song they did for Halo (2...3?) was pretty cool.
UNDECIDED.
yay or nay - Violet - 06-24-2008
Yay Yay Yay