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Champions Online thread - Kaden - 09-14-2009
Yeah. They're sidekick works the same way CoH just changed their SK to work. Once you're on a team, you can designate one of the team members as a "Champion" and then everyone is SK'ed up to their level.
Champions Online thread - Waffuru - 09-14-2009
Ashe Wrote:Still keep considering playing this with you guys but depends on if people stick to it.
I'm assuming they have something similar to the CoH sidekick setup so you can play with friends?
I have a lifetime subscription, so I'll definitely be playing.
Champions Online thread - Ashe - 09-14-2009
Alright, I might if I can ever get the money to do so. Pretty strapped for cash right now and still hoping to grab a copy of Win7 as soon as its released.
Champions Online thread - Kaden - 09-14-2009
I'm using Win7 right now. It comes highly recommended.
Champions Online thread - Ashe - 09-14-2009
Kaden Wrote:I'm using Win7 right now. It comes highly recommended.
No doubt, I've seen nothing but good for it. I love the side docking resizing feature given that I keep my windows like that half the time for the exact reason the video I watched was using it for.
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On a side note, gonna check and see if CO has a trial available yet, though I doubt it.
Champions Online thread - Tyr - 09-14-2009
Kaden Wrote:Yeah, I've had success. FOTM build is End/Ego running the Personal Force Field passive with Field Surge.It's just so fucking random. There's like no organized overlook like say in WoW and it pisses me off to no end that holds can last fucking indefinitely because fuck me if I fight 5 people they can just hurl another one at me while I smash my keyboard into a thousand pieces. Just seems like PvP is utter bs in the game so I hope the rest makes up for it.
Grabbing a hold isn't a bad idea at all. Also anything that disables travel powers is awesome. Teleportation is crazy abusive, even with the combat cooldown (which doesn't actually seem to trigger all of the time).
Any sets that can kite are pretty useful, too. Power Armor and Munitions can do that pretty well. Aside from that, just try to stay with other people from your team and concentrate firepower. If someone on your side seems to be a support/healer build, make sure to keep an eye on them, too.
Champions Online thread - Waffuru - 09-14-2009
Maybe you need to try a new build. I did pretty well in PvP with Ice and Gadgeteering.
Also, if the entire other team attacks you there is nothing you can do. You will die.
Champions Online thread - Tyr - 09-14-2009
Still just seems like a massive mash button fest all in all.
EDIT: That said, I haven't tried playing around with custom frameworks yet. I tried a munitions/dual blade for the coolness factor and just found out I switched instantly weapons and it looked too shitty.
Champions Online thread - Deo - 09-14-2009
Cerion Wrote:It's just so fucking random. There's like no organized overlook like say in WoW and it pisses me off to no end that holds can last fucking indefinitely because fuck me if I fight 5 people they can just hurl another one at me while I smash my keyboard into a thousand pieces. Just seems like PvP is utter bs in the game so I hope the rest makes up for it.
Remember those Troll Hexers that can turn you into frogs over and over and over and hit you without breaking your morph until you die?
Yeah.
Good times.
Also, is Power Armor still OP'd?
Champions Online thread - Kaden - 09-14-2009
Nah, I think Power Armor is pretty balanced.
I've never had problems with being, like, perma held or anything. All holds apply temporary hold protection when they expire, so if you're going from one hold straight into another hold, you should /bug that, Cerion.
Champions Online thread - Tyr - 09-14-2009
I will do then, because thats what happens. I smash all buttons on my keyboard and it starts going down then suddenly it booms back to full length and is harder than ever to break out of.
Champions Online thread - Kaden - 09-14-2009
Yeah, I don't think that's a bug. I think that's part of the tangible/intangible hold effect. Your ability to break out of intangible holds is based on Ego, while tangible hold breaking is based on Strength. I think the bar refilling (I know exactly what you're talking about there) is the hold going from intangible to tangible.
That's just a guess, though. They don't actually explain what a tangible or intangible hold is.
Champions Online thread - Tyr - 09-14-2009
That absolutely sucks considering that any person can have a tangible and an intangible but if you want to be good to break either of those you gotta stack stats. I got 100 strength at the moment (I'm like level 14-15) and I didn't break a single one.
Champions Online thread - Kaden - 09-14-2009
What I mean is that, I think, if you break out of it while it's intangible, it doesn't become tangible.
Champions Online thread - Dr. Cringle - 09-15-2009
I think I'm going to hold off on getting this for a while until they tweak it to the point where most people are relatively satisfied with it. MMOs that just start always seem to go through a lot of upheavals in the beginning of their release until they find a balance that works out okay for everyone.
Plus, well, pretty pointless in getting it since I have no computer at Job Corps. ;-;
Champions Online thread - Ashe - 09-15-2009
Holds in any mmo pvp are pretty much going to be overpowered by nature. In CoH, if a Stalker wasn't popping up and raping me quickly, it seemed like a group would spam holds on me to keep me there and you couldn't get away; same as in WoW with different crowd control.
But in all honesty, do some people actually believe that "I hate how a group of three or four can keep spamming holds and I can't do anything because its overpowered" line of thought? Because to me, that's saying "I want three or four people to all combine their efforts and still be in equal terms with me". You SHOULDN'T have a fighting chance against that many people.
Champions Online thread - Belle Hibiki - 09-15-2009
I don't think people are necessarily saying that they should win. They just don't like the idea that they can't do *anything*. If they got raped in 5 seconds, but could still hit someone and do damage to them, I suspect they'd be totally okay with it.
But there's something about being locked out and having no chance for rebuttal that pisses people off. Even if retaliation is ultimately futile, people like to have it.
Dying without throwing a hit back makes you feel like a real pussy.
Champions Online thread - Ashe - 09-15-2009
A lot of people have a lot higher opinion of their own personal skill too, sadly.
But just to be clear, I'm not insinuating in my above post that anyone in this site is saying the things I mentioned.
Champions Online thread - Tyr - 09-15-2009
That might be it Kaden, but truth be told I have no time to look if it's intangible or tangible before it hits. I just needed to button smash.
Oh well, I'm going to try making some custom framework nicknaming them all 'PvP Experiment <number>' and see how it goes.
Champions Online thread - Kaden - 09-15-2009
Cerion Wrote:That might be it Kaden, but truth be told I have no time to look if it's intangible or tangible before it hits. I just needed to button smash.
Wouldn't matter if you did look. There's definitely no indication.
One of the only things you can actively do against holds is find powers to use that work while held. Unbreakable, from the Power Armor set, and Force Eruption from the Force set, are good ones.