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Room of Spirit and Time - Ashe - 08-19-2009
I believe that you guys want to see something that is either a carbon copy of what was in the show/manga, or in some way a thing that allows you to gain an advantage for roleplaying in it.
I don't mind seeing suggestions (that are just that, suggestions).
Here's the type of suggestions that will pretty much be ignored though (as we don't want to use those mechanics). Also, any mentions of "we" refer to "a portion of the staff" and in no way intend to say "all" or even "the majority".
1 - Character Lifetime Entry Limit
"Your character can only use this three times ever!"
There's too much of a questionable gap in this type of thing and we haven't been entirely happy with the memory issues and things involving character changes, leaving and coming back, if the stats are adjusted later in the game, if the bonuses change and compensation, etc.
2 - Staff Judgment and Getting Bonus XP/Zeni/Etc
This isn't entirely one aspect but is similar enough to be mentioned together. We simply don't intend to be standing around waiting as people file into a line to power game it up to the top by entering the ROSAT every time they are allowed and leaving us to read someone's glorified spar post and suddenly give bonus items/xp/zeni for them doing it inside of the ROSAT instead of anywhere else. This also creates a few other issues that I honestly don't feel like going into. I think at one point we even felt that we'd prefer mechanically that the ROSAT have no game value outside of simply flavor for writing, if it was a choice of that or "kk staff grade my spar and do i get 2x the xp or 3x the xp???"
3 - Earning a Powerup
At one point this would have been entirely fine, but then the actual method of achieving powerups changed to make this pretty much unnecessary.
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The version that we have settled on is something that we feel allows for creative flavor only roleplay uses while also giving it an in game function for someone who late game feels "You know, Foresight sucks and I can't think of moves to make based on it, I wish I could change it into Psychokinesis instead! Guess I have to go search for the dragonballs and then wish for it in addition to my useless one."
The aspect that we felt was that your spirit is being changed by your training in some manner that is up to you. It doesn't have to be like the show at all. If you wish to go in and enter a spirit walk where you are traveling through past events with your ancestors or facing situations from earlier in your life, then do so. That's your story. You will leave them room (flavorwise) as if you were always the way you are, personality differences and one or both character defining abilities being different as well. It won't change the history of this world, but you will feel as if its always been this way or natural to you (if you choose to enact it in that manner).
It allows you to "improve" your character by carving them into a truer version of the character that you have come to understand over time and not the clunky version that just doesn't fit with how you roleplayed it after creation.
However, I'm willing to at least see ideas as long as they are coherent and clear. I'm not going to search out a paragraph of alternating capital letters and MALformed words, if you NOVA I mean.
Room of Spirit and Time - Celena - 08-19-2009
lol. Last paragragh; I see what you did there.
Room of Spirit and Time - Super Buu - 08-19-2009
Just popping in to say that I approve of your pun.
Carry on.
Room of Spirit and Time - Vad - 08-19-2009
Muwahahaha
Room of Spirit and Time - Mal Nova - 08-19-2009
Kiss my ass and go cook a fucking poodle!
Lol... Naw I'd laugh... but I got an issue....
But, so to see if I get this right, you are saying that to become more of a master of an ability you can use the ROSAT... if you might have issues getting your character where you want him to be to write them more correctly?
But as well I have two suggestions... instead of a dumb assed staffer, a peice of Jel,lo and a Rank 5 prostitute just laughing and not progressing shit...
Perhaps te uses of ROSAT could also be used to 'cheapen' Custom Tech RP's if they are trained for? Judged by staff of course!
Or perhaps in certain jobs, it can be used to attempt to double or triple the Zeni output and such? Pending Staff judgement and such...
They just came to me as I read your post before I saw the dumbness...
Wait.. have I done any of that since I've been back?
Room of Spirit and Time - Belle Hibiki - 08-19-2009
Mal Nova Wrote:But, so to see if I get this right, you are saying that to become more of a master of an ability you can use the ROSAT... if you might have issues getting your character where you want him to be to write them more correctly?
What does this even mean?
Room of Spirit and Time - Mal Nova - 08-19-2009
YOU KNOW!!! I fucking tried to edit that thing 3 god damned times... FORGIVE me I still didnt get it right...
But let me use an Example... say IM NOT where I want to be in Abilities with Nova... This allows me to use it and do some posts of progression(semi like the saiyans) and come out knowing how to use them so much better?
Room of Spirit and Time - Jack - 08-19-2009
Thats called character development, Mal, you're free to do as much of that as you like.
Room of Spirit and Time - Mal Nova - 08-19-2009
ASO what is REI explaining that I DONT GET?
Room of Spirit and Time - Orion - 08-19-2009
He's saying you can change one of your skills for a one-time cost of 75 xp.
Eg.
I have Inner Strength and Ki Mastery (or whatever it's called) and I decide that energy is for little wussy girls. Dark Ki is the stuff of champions.
I go into the ROSAT, pay my 75xp, roleplay whatever the hell I want, and come out losing Ki Mastery but gaining Dark Ki.
tl dr; You can pay to change one of your abilities.
Room of Spirit and Time - Mal Nova - 08-19-2009
tl dr..... What does that mean...
And why didn't he say that? I initially thought that's what he meant but I dont see any actual clarification... about the 75 XP....
And i notice my second Suggestion... might be what you dont wanna hear.. but my first...I thinkl would be kind of kool?
Room of Spirit and Time - Rafael - 08-19-2009
tl;dr=too long, didn't read
I like this change, btw:
![[Image: kakashi_thumbs_up.jpg]](http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t124/Maruset/kakashi_thumbs_up.jpg)
While we're on this wave of making all the mechanics more awesome...
keeping zeni across char switches please >.>
Room of Spirit and Time - Ashe - 08-19-2009
...God dammit, Mal.
Room of Spirit and Time - Sage - 08-19-2009
Ashe, come on. Obvious flamebait is obvious.
Mal, enough. I know you're just defending yourself, so it's cool, but let's just stop here.
As far as your suggestions, Mal, I sincerely doubt there'll be any way to jack up zeni earn rates since it's basically been decided that fast earnings are anathema here. Not saying that's a bad thing but... yeah. As far as cheap techs? That could entirely happen, but I'm totally against it. XP is super easy to earn already.
Room of Spirit and Time - Mal Nova - 08-19-2009
Bite me....
Fine let them attempt for a PP Max up then?
Room of Spirit and Time - Sage - 08-19-2009
Again, I'm totally against it. If someone else on staff is cool with it then whatever. But with zeni as hard to get as it is right now, it's comparatively way too easy to get xp/pp/whatever.
Since SSJ2 is easier to get than a fucking HQ (yes I know I've made that comparison a few times but it's pretty illustrative).
Room of Spirit and Time - Jonathan Meer - 08-19-2009
I won't ever use this. I don't like the idea of the expenditure of XP without addition.
But that's just me. There's no real problem with the new RoSaT change. It's certainly not a BAD change. It's just something I won't use.
I do think 75 XP is a bit high, but maybe that's because I never rp.
Room of Spirit and Time - Belle Hibiki - 08-19-2009
Jonathan Meer Wrote:I won't ever use this. I don't like the idea of the expenditure of XP without addition.
But that's just me. There's no real problem with the new RoSaT change. It's certainly not a BAD change. It's just something I won't use.
I do think 75 XP is a bit high, but maybe that's because I never rp.
It used to be a 75 entrance fee on TOP of the 75 xp to do anything, then Kaden said "what the FUCK" and that got toned down.
I don't have a problem with the current RoSaT. It just takes a little adjusting to a different idea than the literal one that the show presented. You're not coming out stronger just by virtue of being inside, but it's a free roleplaying opportunity to do something really creative and off-the-wall. That would make you write more (hopefully), which will lead to you getting stronger.
I know I'm going to be using it at some point.
Room of Spirit and Time - Vad - 08-19-2009
At one point I think the Pendulum Room should be added. What it would do? We could certainly argue that one.
In the show it made your mind create dream bodies and it shot you back to a past event.
Room of Spirit and Time - Cain - 08-19-2009
Vad Wrote:At one point I think the Pendulum Room should be added. What it would do? We could certainly argue that one.
In the show it made your mind create dream bodies and it shot you back to a past event.
We can just make pendulum rooms as long as they don't affect the stats aspect of the rpg I think.