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Versatility - Jonathan Meer - 11-22-2011
For people into the ranked 5s thing, let's troubleshoot our lack of versatility and work on expanding it.
Post at least three champions under each of the following categories that you're familiar enough with to play competently in serious, ranked matches. If you don't have three champions for that role, leave a space blank. Be honest, and don't round up 'general acquaintance' to 'competence'. Feel free to list a champ in more than one category, if that champ fits into more than one category (such as Udyr solo top and Udyr jungle).
Champions that you are working on in a particular category, but aren't yet competent with, list in italics.
The categories are: Solo Top, AP mid, Jungle, Ranged AD, and Support.
For each person's blanks, it would be worthwhile for people like Mario and Tryg to suggest champs to fill that slot.
Here's mine:
Solo Top
Udyr
Gangplank
Ryze
Gragas
AP mid
Ryze
Annie
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Jungle
Udyr
Gangplank
Nocturne (haven't tried him out since nerf)
Amumu (haven't touched him in awhile, but he's pretty straightforward in jungle anyway)
Ranged AD
Ashe
Caitlyn (close-ish to competent)
Tristana
Support
Janna (Really bad with her)
Alistar (Really bad with him)
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Versatility - Piper Juunanagou - 11-22-2011
I think I have a lot of champs at 'leisurely decent'-level, but since this is for serious, I will spend some time dwelling on it.
After some thought:
Solo Top
Wukong (my boy)
Irelia (though I get countered hard by a lot of champs)
Singed
Shyvana
AP mid (my bane)
Morgana (used to play her a lot, but I'm out of practice)
Karthus (really want to learn to play him, don't know if he'd fit into a ranked comp though)
---- (Annie? she does have that mean AoE stun)
Jungle
Malphite
Warwick
Amumu (I want to refine my Jungle Amumu, because of all that CC)
Ranged AD
Tristana
Sivir
Caitlyn (close-ish to competence)
Support
Soraka
Janna
Alistar (although I tend to go tanky Alistar than anything else)
Taric
Edit: I am open to any suggestions of champs that people thing I should learn based on what I seem to like. I think my main issue with League of Legends is that I just enjoy playing a variety of champs rather than any solid collection =/
Versatility - Rafael - 11-22-2011
Solo Top: As I've said many times, this is my biggest weakness, but...
Yorick. Definitely my safest solo, I can hold most people back although I'm not really farming a ton
Singed.
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AP Mid: =D Pure, simple, def my best spot
Fiddle
Malz
Heimer
Jungle: Def shouldn't be doing this in ranked due to mediocrity, but
Xin Zhao Fun, quick, reliable
Jarvan: Pretty much just a weaker version of me playing Xin tbh
Nocturne
Ranged AD: Pretty much only play these two, but
Ashe
Cait
Support: Def don't do this as much as I should, but I'm not too bad imo
Alistar
Sona
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I'd def say I'm one of the people that would need to diversify though. That list is damn near 100% of who I play
Versatility - John Doe - 11-22-2011
Solo Top
Singed (my best)
Garen
Malphite
Mordekaiser
Shen (Saw a Shen solo top once against a Gangplank, so I'll work on it)
Cho'Gath
AP mid
Brand
Heimerdinger (my best)
Karthus
Jungle
Xin Zhao
Skarner (my best right now)
Amumu
Warwick
Ranged AD
Ashe
Ezreal (my best)
Corki
Support
Sona (my best)
Soraka
Taric
Alistar
I'm not the greatest in any category, but I'm not afraid to be in any area. Jack-of-all-trades ftl.
Versatility - Trygelan - 11-22-2011
Haven't read through all of this yet, I'm just going to suggest 3 champs for each role that I think are pretty good to have in your line up over all.
Solo Top
Singed
Yorick
Nasus
AP Mid
Annie
Brand
Karthus
Jungle
Skarner
Rammus
Gangplank
Ranged AD
Vayne
Caitlyn
Tristana
Support
Sona
Soraka
Alistar
These are all really good picks for their respective roles, almost able to fit into any team comp.
Honestly though, don't worry about getting a specific champion for a role, there can be some flexibility in that, but do work on making sure you are competent with more than just 1 or 2 champions per role.
Versatility - Mr. Zhu - 11-22-2011
Solo Top: One of my best roles, I enjoy playing Solo lanes because there's no one to get in the way of you. Keep in mind I have good knowledge on every single solo top hero, but the ones I list are the ones I play with extensively.
-Pantheon: Although I tend to run him mid nowadays, he's still a force to be reckoned with at top running teleport.
-Nasus: My farm machine go-to choice. Super strong.
-Irelia: One of my best solo top artists.
-Renekton: I can play a mean Renekton, but I'm a little out of practice with him because I simply don't play him as much as Nasus or Irelia.
AP Mid: Not my favorite role, AP casters are like my Achilles heel when it comes to LoL.
-Pantheon: Not an AP mid, but I find this is the best place to put him because of mobility and less room for ganks which Panths are quite susceptible to. With Pantheon I feel like I have the perfect blend of everything. The one thing that I need to work on with Pantheon is warding and last hitting because sometimes I stop farming and just get too aggressive overall.
-Katarina: Plain and simple, my best AP carry.
-Sion: I can play a mean Sion, always could, but since now he's considered OP I guess he's up there.
-Akali
-Annie: by this itallic, I mean I can't play her consistently, its either I facerape or I can't get in the zone and suck ass.
Jungle: My second worst position, I have much work to be done in this position.
-Pantheon: Yes, I have him on three of my positions. Wanna fight about it?
-Warwick: He's the only other jungler I feel confident enough playing in a real ranked match.
-Nunu: He's my pretty okay jungler, but not always viable in team comps.
Ranged AD: I can play any ranged AD well, except for Ez and Kog. Sometimes though, I tend to be very streaky with my last hitting either I never miss or I miss the simplest ones and fall off. Other teams I play with simply credit it to being not enough practice because I play Pantheon too much lol.
-Trist: By far my best.
-Ashe: One of my best.
-Caitlyn: One of my best.
-Vayne: Still working out some kinks, but yeah I'm quite solid as her.
Support: My best role. Weird I know, but I've been told by many platinum players that I could definitely hang with high elo as a support for sure. I've been a scrim alt for a 1.9k ~ 2k elo team and would've joined a sponsored team if I could have more time to practice.
-Janna: My favorite and my best
-Alistar: I'm definitely a rock solid Alistar
-Taric: One of my favorites and possibly second best.
-Sona: Sometimes I have really bad games with her, and sometimes I have great games. I don't know, need to work on her more. That ult is hard to land sometimes.
-Soraka: I'm quite solid with Soraka, although since the "remake" I haven't really been playing her.
-Supportplank: Easy concept, and usually end up doing quite well. The utility of his ult in the support role is definitely amazing.
-Blitzcrank: My pulls are inconsistent but overall I can still hang with Blitz
-Leona: Very out of practice with her, and out of practice means I've played her for like a week and that's it. lol.
-Ashe: Been meaning to try out support Ashe, I can see how the concept would be amazing. Built in short range CV, awesome passive for zoning people out, frost arrows good for zoning people out, and great slowing utility even as a support. Who can forget though, that game-changing ultimate. My god.
Versatility - Mr. Zhu - 11-22-2011
Trygelan Wrote:Haven't read through all of this yet, I'm just going to suggest 3 champs for each role that I think are pretty good to have in your line up over all.
Solo Top
Singed
Yorick
Nasus
AP Mid
Annie
Brand
Karthus
Jungle
Skarner
Rammus
Gangplank
Ranged AD
Vayne
Caitlyn
Tristana
Support
Sona
Soraka
Alistar
These are all really good picks for their respective roles, almost able to fit into any team comp.
Honestly though, don't worry about getting a specific champion for a role, there can be some flexibility in that, but do work on making sure you are competent with more than just 1 or 2 champions per role.
Would like to add to each role a little bit.
Solo Top
Renekton
Galio
Gangplank
Cho'Gath
AP Mid
Cassiopeia
Kassadin
Kennen
Jungle
Trundle
Nocturne
Udyr
Fiddlesticks
Ranged AD Carry
Ashe (Definitely pick her up as one of the first AD carries if you're looking to learn the role)
Graves
Miss Fortune (Feel like she's a sleeper)
Kog'Maw
Support
Taric
Janna(Low sustain but works with ANY ad carry)
Versatility - Ashe - 11-23-2011
I'm going to fill this out, but I want to make something apparent that I'm not sure I've openly voiced recently. When I've played, a lot of my game play, for honestly close to a year now, (at least in non-ranked) has been me playing characters for enjoyment or with full intentions of improving on that character (...Shaco). The entire reason has been specifically to improve and broaden my range of character play because, nearly a year ago when we first started doing ranked, I would get into games and find my couple of characters banned (or taken) and I would be sitting there being told "Dariden, play a support" as the last picker and me being completely blank and playing a character that "is god tier" but I haven't played more than single digits (Taric long ago). I still know full well which characters I would consider my go to if I want to be serious and who I feel the most in control with, and honestly I don't play those characters all that often due to some of the fun fading from that exact experience.
That said, I would say my most competent role would be AP mid and I feel that I'm fairly adept at gauging the MU there (whether it be knowing when I've been counterpicked hard, or knowing who I should pick for a situation). I've been really working on my jungling lately because that is my second preference of role but I haven't really played the characters I think I am most competent with because I feel I need to broaden my range there, as well as grow more adept at timings and paths. My third preference for a role would be solo top, which I've worked on a lot after past times where I would be told "You are going to solo top, don't feed noob" and I'd just get crushed going Malphite (as suggested) against a Poppy Ryze lane. I enjoy duoing bot the least, although I think I'm a competent enough AD Ranged, although it is weaker than my other roles by now.
Versatility - Kaden - 11-23-2011
Solo Top
Mordekaiser
Nidalee
Lee Sin
Riven
Nasus
Gangplank
Wukong
Yorick
Garen
Xin
Udyr
AP Mid
Cassiopeia
Nidalee
Karthus
Kassadin
Swain
Ryze
Gragas
Jax
Jungle
Master Yi
Xin
Udyr
Lee Sin
Ranged AD
All of them. Seriously. If anyone think I'm lacking on one of the champions, let me know, because I'm not aware of it. This is my most competitive role and if there's something I can do to keep it that way, I'd like to know.
Support
Janna (best support in the game, btw)
Alistair
Sona
Swain (it's a thing, I swear)
Taric
Soraka
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In case it wasn't clear, Ranged AD and top bruiser are probably my best roles. So... yeah... there's that.
Really, I don't think there's a bad champion someone can learn for a given role. Just go look at the lineups from the previous MLG. People banning LeBlanc? That should say something about the balance of the game. Find a champion, for a given role, who's mechanics work for you and just master them.
Versatility - Anzekay - 11-23-2011
Solo Top
Riven
Shyvana
Skarner
Renekton
Jax
Singed
Sion
Wukong
Jungle
Riven
Shyvana
Skarner
Nocturne
Renekton
Rammus
Master Yi
AP Mid
Annie
Kog'maw
Anivia
Lux
Sion
Xerath
Kassadin
Heimerdinger
Twisted Fate
Karthus
AD Mid
Tristana
Kog'maw
Twisted Fate
Ezreal
EDIT: Urgot, but I don't own him
AD Bot
Tristana
Kog'maw
Twisted Fate
Ezreal
Support
Sona (don't own her though...)
Soraka
Taric
Leona
Top/jungle/mid are by far my best and most enjoyable roles, though I am getting better with ranged AD and I've been having fun with those 4 champs there (maybe not as much with tf).
Versatility - Kole T. Merr - 11-23-2011
Solo Top
Vlad
Garen
Cho'Gath
Xin Zhao
AP mid[/i]
Vlad
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Jungle
Xin Zhao
Amumu
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[b]Ranged AD
Caitlyn
Tristana
Urgot
Support
Amumu (Fucking beast)
Alistar
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Versatility - Jarka - 11-23-2011
Who's got two thumbs and a helping hand? THIS GAL.
Support - my best role, by far. I will love and tolerate the SHIT out of my laning partner. In no particular order (and probably forgetting some):
Soraka
Janna
Taric
Zilean
Sona (but I will grumble under my breath the entire time while playing her)
Supportlestix
Nunu
Alistar
Maokai
Some support that I play pure support early and hybrid into to a damagey role late game:
Nidalee
Karma
AP Caster
Lux
Morgana
Orianna
Karth
Fizz
Ryze
AD Carry This is the category I’m focusing on learning right now.
Trist
Cait
Graves
Vayne
Corki
Tankies –Not my strongest point
Cho
Singed
Uhhhh
Leona
Jungle
Mmmnope. I can get by with Cho/Fid/Nunu, but it’s one of those “everybody but me first” things.
Versatility - Orion - 11-23-2011
Solo Top
Xin Zhao
Jarvan
Irelia
Cho'Gath
Mordekaiser
Nasus
Udyr
Urgot
Janna
Riven
Renekton
Garen
Tank (I'm including this because it's one of my strongest types)
Cho'Gath (pro at tank as Cho)
Mordekaiser
Malphite
Blitzcrank (Off-tank)
Maokai
AP mid
Malzahar
Akali
Anivia
Karthus
Kassadin
Oriana
Swain
Zilean
Jungle (My weakest area)
Udyr
Master Yi
Warwick
Ranged AD
Urgot
Ashe
Caitlyn
Miss Fortune
Support
Janna
Taric
Soraka
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My speciality is tanking/bruisers, with support and AP burst casters a tied second.
Versatility - Mr. Zhu - 11-28-2011
I'm wondering in arranged 5's ranked match, who would be taking the AP mid role, because I see like 5 people maining bruisers and like no one maining APs. Let's not forget the chance for double AP top and mid comps.
Versatility - Jonathan Meer - 11-28-2011
I see a bunch of people with a big AP repertoire.
Versatility - Mr. Zhu - 11-28-2011
I see that too, but I don't see anyone except for Rafael that comes out and says, YO I'M GOOD AT AP CARRY AND I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD BE THERE 100% OF THE TIME. Which is what we probably need right now, because there are so many people that feel top is their best role.
Versatility - Anzekay - 11-28-2011
I love AP mid, but I always end up in games where others really want to play that so I usually end up jungling or top.
Or I call jungle because I feel like playing skarner
Versatility - Kaden - 11-28-2011
I can AP mid pretty well.
Versatility - John Doe - 11-28-2011
AP mid is where I usually went a few months ago. We are beyond covered for AP mid.
What we need is more bot laners. Both AD carry and Support.
Versatility - Rafael - 11-28-2011
I need to brush up on Ali some, but as for AD bot I almost exclusively Ashe.
Also YO I'M GOOD AT AP CARRY AND I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD BE THERE 100% OF THE TIME