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[LoM-3] Day Four - Ashe - 05-25-2012
Sorry, this is a bit late. I hope that doesn't cause a problem.
Vad has been Executed!
Vad was Twisted Fate, an ordinary Player!
Eight Players remain:
1. Kaden
2. Blue (P)
3. Mal Nova (P)
4. Kayne
5. King B (P)
6. Maruset
7. Rose
8. Android 17
9. John Doe
10. Kole T. Merr
11. Vad (P)
12. Anzekay
Five votes will create a majority vote.
Good luck.
[LoM-3] Day Four - Super Buu - 05-25-2012
So I guess we're just gonna wait until mafia kill us all? aight
[LoM-3] Day Four - Maruset - 05-25-2012
Well, no investigators have revealed, so we've already lost. So it goes.
[LoM-3] Day Four - John Doe - 05-25-2012
Well neat, I thought for sure that I'd be dead by now.
So, I think the lack of any vote buff yesterday indicates that Nunu (Blue) was the culprit, probably bloodlust or whatever that buff of his was. TF(Vad) was probably some kind of investigative role. If this howling gentleman is really Warwick, and if he has the same power that he's had in the past, he probably knows who I am. Really hoping he's not somehow a troll. Maurset is still Anivia.
My best guesses for trolls would be Anzekay, Rose, and Teemer/Android 17. Anzekay has a knack for jumping on bandwagons at the last second. Rose is suspicious because his logic just wasn't... logical. And he was adamant about bringing me down. Teemer and Android 17 are quiet.
I don't think Maurset is a troll, and I'm leaning towards Kaden and Kayne not being trolls either.
I'll put my vote out there now: Ban Anzekay
[LoM-3] Day Four - Kayne - 05-25-2012
Noooo not vad ;.;
[LoM-3] Day Four - Anzekay - 05-25-2012
John Doe Wrote:Well neat, I thought for sure that I'd be dead by now.
So, I think the lack of any vote buff yesterday indicates that Nunu (Blue) was the culprit, probably bloodlust or whatever that buff of his was. TF(Vad) was probably some kind of investigative role. If this howling gentleman is really Warwick, and if he has the same power that he's had in the past, he probably knows who I am. Really hoping he's not somehow a troll. Maurset is still Anivia.
My best guesses for trolls would be Anzekay, Rose, and Teemer/Android 17. Anzekay has a knack for jumping on bandwagons at the last second. Rose is suspicious because his logic just wasn't... logical. And he was adamant about bringing me down. Teemer and Android 17 are quiet.
I don't think Maurset is a troll, and I'm leaning towards Kaden and Kayne not being trolls either.
I'll put my vote out there now: Ban Anzekay
Well, I'm a little surprised you'd point the finger at me, Doe. This 'knack' you say I have is just what happens when there is a 12-15 hour difference between you and the majority of the players; you always end up posting later than everyone else.
You, however, not only started the ban votes for Mal that got him banned, who we then found out was a townie, but you also tried to vote out Vad yesterday but failed. And now he's dead. Since he was TF, and possibly an investigator, how do we know you didn't just want him out of the game, tried to get it done with the votes and when that failed, just took him down last night?
I still don't trust you, Doe. All you've done is just make vague suggestions based on what are apparently guesses, all of which have lined up with the deaths of townies. That stinks, to me.
Ban John Doe
[LoM-3] Day Four - Kole T. Merr - 05-25-2012
I literally haven't had any time this past week to just sit at my computer and read through everything that everyone posts. Just sitting down at a computer is a luxury right now. You can ask anyone, I haven't even really been on Steam. We do need to start banning now, or else we are going to get screwed in the end.
Ban Maruset
[LoM-3] Day Four - Super Buu - 05-25-2012
I think whatever happens, we're fairly screwed if we don't get a mafia tonight. Without some investigative help or a ban, we have nothing to go on. I'm not an investigator, and I've done everything I can to try and corral people into getting a ban and all that's done is draw attention to myself. So if the people who are standing back wanna do something then I'll throw my chips in, otherwise gg.
[LoM-3] Day Four - Super Buu - 05-25-2012
Not sure if Kole is troll or just didn't see day 2.
[LoM-3] Day Four - John Doe - 05-25-2012
My reason for going after Vad was, as I mentioned an obscenely large number of times, was that he was somebody I suspected to have the vote buff ability. However, it was based on a theory that had a lack of information (in this case, it was the Day 1 vote tally). If I had the information sooner, I wouldn't have pushed for Vad, Kayne, and yourself nearly as hard as I did. I probably would have pushed for Teemer or Android 17 instead.
Of course it's guesses (educated, mind you). This entire game is guessing shit until somebody actually has some form of information to reveal. I'm taking what I observe, record it, measure it up against past experiences and come to a conclusion. Then I inform the town of my theories until somebody either contradicts what I know or divulges new information.
When there is no information at all (read: the early stages of the game), then you are forced to make something happen. In this case, it was starting a vote against Mal.
I think Vad was killed by the trolls because it was probably an easy way to secure a kill for themselves. Loud people (such as myself) are too obvious a target. It's easy to say "oh yeah, that guy is totally going to get killed tonight." But that also means that it's easy for a player with a doctor-ish role to save them. I think Blue died for basically the same reason. If you look back at it, Maurset was the first person to "die" in the game, and he was also very quiet and inconspicuous.
[LoM-3] Day Four - Kaden - 05-25-2012
Anzekay is either not reading posts (which seems to be frustratingly common) or is intentionally being misleading. Doe is actually the only person in the game that has come close to proving his innocence.
Ban Anzekay
That people think investigators haven't been actively trying to help the town is also really irritating.
[LoM-3] Day Four - John Doe - 05-25-2012
Kaden Wrote:not reading posts (which seems to be frustratingly common)
That's what I've been thinking too. I don't know how much more I could possibly repeat myself.
Oh hey, here's some info that might interest you guys. I wasn't targeted last night. By anything.
[LoM-3] Day Four - Super Buu - 05-26-2012
^I (sorry, 'people') haven't said once that investigators aren't TRYING to help. I'm just saying we haven't gotten any. In the absence of that, banning someone is the only way to get information.
Considering that, my biggest suspicions right now are on Kaden and Kayne, because they're the ones who held us back from getting a ban last round (not to mention avoiding lynching in previous rounds, besides round 2 where Kayne threw a vote on Mal and then retracted it which could mean literally anything). I think Teemer is probably a townie and just not paying much attention (which he kind of said himself but meh). Maruset I'm fairly certain is a townie because pay attention. Anzekay is kind of suspicious because of what Doe's said (regardless of whether or not Doe is mafia, it's sound logic about jumping on at the last second, which could be simply as a townie to avoid suspicion but still). Android 17 is doing his usual no-posting thing so I literally have no idea either way and am tempted to vote him out simply for that but if he's not mafia, we lose. John Doe is probably a townie tbh, since we know Blue was probably the +voter.
What people either don't seem to realise, or are just sidestepping because they're mafia, is that ALL of this "suspiciousness" and "seems legit" guessery means literally nothing until we have someone lynched.
You would think people who've been in several games would know this by now. For that reason, I'm placing suspicion on Kaden slightly above Kayne because he's played in a ton of games and for sure knows this, and still avoided banning last round. So between Kayne and Kaden, Ban Kaden.
Given how things have gone so far, there probably won't be a lynch by the end of the day, so I know this is pretty much moot. But I'll come back and check before I go to bed, and if anyone is nearing a majority I'll toss my vote on them because pay attention. It could well be Anzekay, my main reservation is that Kaden's vote is on him right now.
[LoM-3] Day Four - Maruset - 05-26-2012
Well, we lose. Blah. Personal feeling is Rose and Doe are clear, everyone else, dunno. Teemer's not really here enough to guess and Kayne could just be being silly, but whatevs. I'll just keep on keepin' on being nigh immortal until mafia outnumbers me.
Dart board tonight sez Ban Anzekay
[LoM-3] Day Four - John Doe - 05-26-2012
In risk of sounding like I'm "defending" Kaden, I'd prefer a no ban day to a ban player day.
Actually, Rose, I find Kaden and Kayne less suspicious because of not jumping on the bandwagon. Kaden, whether mafia/troll or not, tends to not do much in the early game, since, you know, nobody knows anything at that point. However, roll around to the third day or so, then he starts using that noodle o his. In this case, he actually read what I've posted. Kayne, on the other hand, is inexperienced (it's her first mafia game on Chubbs, and I don't know if she's even played LoL before). I think you give her too much credit in trying to hold the players back.
Of course, Kaden could be agreeing with me just to lynch a player tonight, then get a kill at night and win. And Kayne could have been told by her troll friends to play inexperienced and just keep the players distracted. But I think their innocence is much more likely.
[LoM-3] Day Four - Super Buu - 05-26-2012
Looks like Anzekay it is then. Unban Kaden and all my chips on Ban Anzekay please Mr Ashe. If he's mafia, then I'll double up next round, if not then gg.
[LoM-3] Day Four - John Doe - 05-26-2012
A big thing I should mention. Since we have so few people left, every player (not a troll) has to vote on the same guy. I'm pretty sure there's three trolls in this game (based on previous games with twelve people) so the 5 of us non trolls have to focus up.
This is really bad for us players if Teemer and/or Android 17 are player(s) too. Since they're never here when we need them.
[LoM-3] Day Four - Kayne - 05-26-2012
I just go off what makes sense. This is my first Mafia (at least, in the past three or so years, hell idk when the last time I've played was. I think it was when Krillin was running it a long time ago, maybe 07?). Just very unsure of who to vote for because I do not want to vote someone who is completely innocent here and we still have a troll out there being all...troll-y. Maruset and Kaden make a bit of sense, as far as suspicions. If I had to choose though, I'd have to go with Ban Kaden
[LoM-3] Day Four - Kayne - 05-26-2012
I might change my mind later, but I'm not very confident that Anzekay is anything but a townie yet.
[LoM-3] Day Four - Kaden - 05-26-2012
Rose Wrote:...
To be clear, my reasoning this round is 100% the same as it is last round. To me, Doe has proven he's a townsperson.
Quote:I'm just saying we haven't gotten any. In the absence of that, banning someone is the only way to get information.
My point was that the help is absolutely there. It's as obvious as it should be, considering there are people very interested in killing whoever provides the most help.