Reference for Alex Members, convo

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roland756 (2:49:53 AM): dende banned yet
kurotenshard (2:50:59 AM): Banned? No. I haven't had the opportunity to speak with him yet. And IF he admits to it, beings that I don't really have proof that it was him, then he'll recieve a warning at most and pretty much be told to knock it off. He was not a member when he did it.
roland756 (2:51:34 AM): well then at least i will have a reason to tell people why chubbs has soured relations between the sites
kurotenshard (2:51:38 AM): Oh, and that was me that spoke with you the other day when you said I was probably the one doing it. Not Krillin. I just figured you were busy at the moment.
roland756 (2:51:51 AM): it was tissueness
roland756 (2:52:04 AM): i just added you to my BL, he is under my recent buddies, ive never talked to you
kurotenshard (2:52:48 AM): So when I messaged you saying to let me know if anyone else flamed and if you knew who that Drago guy was, and you said "It was probably you" and I said "Nevermind", it wasn't me?
roland756 (2:53:01 AM): but if dende is not banned the chubbs staff will be revealed as liars
kurotenshard (2:53:16 AM): I've never stated "You will be banned, no matter what" for one.
roland756 (2:53:18 AM): and they will also be viewed as progressing conflict between the sites
kurotenshard (2:53:28 AM): Only because you want it to.
kurotenshard (2:53:34 AM): I can only deal with the problem from our members.
roland756 (2:53:42 AM): obviously you cant do that either
roland756 (2:53:48 AM): or you are just a known liar
roland756 (2:53:54 AM): nothing you say has merit any longer
roland756 (2:54:29 AM): remember when you claimed you were a lawyer
kurotenshard (2:54:55 AM): Then I apologize for having a job to work at and not immediately spending all of my time trying to hunt down someone on your word that "he was the one, but I have no proof" to ban him when he hadn't joined yet.
roland756 (2:55:01 AM): are you aware it is a crime to fraudulently state you are a lawyer?
kurotenshard (2:55:02 AM): And no, I was not that person.
kurotenshard (2:55:08 AM): I am not the person.
roland756 (2:55:15 AM): kurotenshard said they were a lawyer
kurotenshard (2:55:18 AM): You are confusing yourself.
roland756 (2:55:19 AM): and gave me detailed IMs about it
kurotenshard (2:55:21 AM): Nope.
kurotenshard (2:55:25 AM): That was not the name.
roland756 (2:55:27 AM): sorry i have the aim saved
kurotenshard (2:55:28 AM): I guarantee you.
kurotenshard (2:55:30 AM): I do too
kurotenshard (2:55:36 AM): Want to compare notes?
roland756 (2:55:42 AM): ur gonna need it
roland756 (2:56:07 AM): just wanted to make sure you knew it was a crime
kurotenshard (2:56:26 AM): Sure thing, sue me for something I didn't do.
kurotenshard (2:56:30 AM): I double dare you.
kurotenshard (2:56:41 AM): Because I will be linking to a post right now where another person admitted to it.
roland756 (2:56:55 AM): oh linking to a post?
roland756 (2:56:59 AM): what happened to the saved aim log you had
kurotenshard (2:57:09 AM): I have a log from another person that posted it.
kurotenshard (2:57:24 AM): I obviously cannot have a saved aim file on my local desktop when it never came from my account.
kurotenshard (2:57:28 AM): That should be a given.
roland756 (2:57:39 AM): hmm changed your story i see
kurotenshard (2:57:56 AM): Nope.
kurotenshard (2:58:01 AM): You misunderstood.
roland756 (2:58:04 AM): lets see the post
roland756 (2:58:05 AM): bub
kurotenshard (2:58:06 AM): Seriously, pull up your conovo.
kurotenshard (2:58:08 AM): I want to see it.
roland756 (2:58:31 AM): i dont see you posting any links
kurotenshard (2:58:45 AM): I'm searching
kurotenshard (2:58:53 AM): These things don't happen immediately.
roland756 (2:59:06 AM): hmm you had it before and now you dont
roland756 (2:59:08 AM): thats odd
kurotenshard (2:59:09 AM): I haven't bookmarked it because I never realized how incorrect your logs were.
kurotenshard (2:59:15 AM): Nope, I never stated that.
kurotenshard (2:59:20 AM): I said its on a post.
kurotenshard (2:59:24 AM): I will be finding that post again.
roland756 (2:59:37 AM): Roland756: sorry i have the aim saved
kurotenshard: I do too
roland756 (2:59:41 AM): oops
kurotenshard (2:59:43 AM): saved on the board.
roland756 (2:59:44 AM): looks like you lied
kurotenshard (2:59:46 AM): it is on a post.
kurotenshard (2:59:50 AM): Don't twist my words.
roland756 (2:59:52 AM): sorry
roland756 (2:59:53 AM): you lied
roland756 (2:59:55 AM): own up to it bub
kurotenshard (2:59:58 AM): nope
roland756 (3:00:01 AM): you said I do too
roland756 (3:00:03 AM): i twisted nothing
kurotenshard (3:00:05 AM): you are twisting what was said.
kurotenshard (3:00:11 AM): Ok, anyways, I'm searching for hte link
roland756 (3:00:15 AM): incorrect
roland756 (3:00:24 AM): to twist it i would have to phrase it differently than what you said
roland756 (3:00:31 AM): but you said you had it saved
roland756 (3:00:36 AM): so...
roland756 (3:00:37 AM): yeah...
roland756 (3:00:39 AM): that was a lie
roland756 (3:00:49 AM): just as that post about dealing with troublemakers was a lie
roland756 (3:00:53 AM): as well as you being a lawyer was a lie
roland756 (3:01:02 AM): why lie?
kurotenshard (3:01:24 AM): one moment, I'm looking.
roland756 (3:01:34 AM): hurry
roland756 (3:01:37 AM): make something up
roland756 (3:01:58 AM): haha this is pathetic it truly is
kurotenshard (3:02:06 AM): if you say so
kurotenshard (3:02:14 AM): I have quite a few pages to search through.
roland756 (3:02:17 AM): im just not sure why anybody would lie
roland756 (3:02:22 AM): is what baffles me
roland756 (3:02:44 AM): its like when i pull people over for speeding
roland756 (3:02:46 AM): they tell me lies
kurotenshard (3:02:47 AM): and I just noticed my post was unstickied, which is weird.
roland756 (3:02:50 AM): like i wasnt there
roland756 (3:03:11 AM): i guess people thin kthey call pull one over on me
roland756 (3:03:38 AM): i have the chat log so nothing you can show me can convince me otherwise
kurotenshard (3:03:44 AM): then pull it up.
roland756 (3:03:46 AM): like i pull someone over for speeding i SAW IT HAPPEN
kurotenshard (3:03:47 AM): I'm serious.
roland756 (3:03:51 AM): so nothing they say can convince me otherwise
roland756 (3:04:04 AM): hmm yes people often tell me to show them the radar
kurotenshard (3:04:08 AM): and I'm trying to find that original thread that was often shown.
roland756 (3:04:12 AM): but sorry
roland756 (3:04:14 AM): dont think so
kurotenshard (3:04:14 AM): Yes, I'm asking you to provide this proof.
kurotenshard (3:04:24 AM): Then I cannot accept the validity of your false claim.
roland756 (3:04:27 AM): i need to prove to you that you are lying?
kurotenshard (3:04:28 AM): I'm trying to provide mine.
roland756 (3:04:29 AM): tahts an odd thing to say
roland756 (3:04:33 AM): because we both know it was a lie
kurotenshard (3:04:35 AM): yes.
kurotenshard (3:04:41 AM): In a court of law, you will be required to show proof.
roland756 (3:04:42 AM): i obviously dont have to prove to myself you were lying because i know
roland756 (3:04:46 AM): and since you were lying, you know you were
roland756 (3:04:49 AM): so we both already know
kurotenshard (3:05:02 AM): just like it was "tissueness" that messaged you.
kurotenshard (3:05:05 AM): When you are incorrect.
roland756 (3:05:12 AM): i have that log saved as well
roland756 (3:05:24 AM): and ive shared it with my members
roland756 (3:05:29 AM): after you claimed it wasnt truet
roland756 (3:05:32 AM): to show them you are a liar
kurotenshard (3:05:35 AM): Here's from the other night.
kurotenshard (3:05:37 AM):
kurotenshard (11:50:30 PM): Hi
kurotenshard (11:50:35 PM): Quick question
roland756 (11:50:38 PM): ?
kurotenshard (11:50:51 PM): If you find out that "DragoFromRocky" is a Chubbs person, could you let us know so we can deal with him?
roland756 (11:51:02 PM): how do i know it wasnt you
kurotenshard (11:51:40 PM): Nevermind then.
kurotenshard (3:05:43 AM): 19th
roland756 (3:05:51 AM): yup that happened
kurotenshard (3:05:59 AM): still looking for the other.
kurotenshard (3:06:12 AM): it happened?
kurotenshard (3:06:14 AM): are you sure?
kurotenshard (3:06:18 AM): because I distinctly recall...
roland756 (3:06:23 AM): only the sn was different
roland756 (3:06:26 AM): it was not kurotenshard
roland756 (3:06:28 AM): it was tissueness
kurotenshard (3:06:34 AM): roland756 (2:52:04 AM): i just added you to my BL, he is under my recent buddies, ive never talked to you

kurotenshard (3:06:41 AM): nope, sorry, you are wrong.
roland756 (3:06:48 AM): it is also weird that roland seems to be uncapitialized in your version
kurotenshard (3:06:49 AM): I posted that for reference immediately after the convo
roland756 (3:06:53 AM): yet clearly my name has a capital
kurotenshard (3:07:01 AM): because all of my names are lowercase on my aim
roland756 (3:07:04 AM): nothing you can say will change my mind
kurotenshard (3:07:06 AM): well, yours anyways and mine
kurotenshard (3:07:08 AM): not some
roland756 (3:07:08 AM): because i know the trth
roland756 (3:07:12 AM): you cant convince an eye witness
roland756 (3:07:29 AM): you have since been caught in 4 lies
roland756 (3:07:45 AM): and yet you say its my choice my rpg hates yours
kurotenshard (3:07:46 AM): nah, you are making false accusations.
roland756 (3:07:48 AM): nope sorry
kurotenshard (3:07:48 AM): I've proven you wrong.
roland756 (3:08:08 AM): kurotenshard (11:50:30 PM): Hi
kurotenshard (11:50:35 PM): Quick question
roland756 (11:50:38 PM): ?
kurotenshard (11:50:51 PM): If you find out that "DragoFromRocky" is a Chubbs person, could you let us know so we can deal with him?
roland756 (11:51:02 PM): how do i know it wasnt you
kurotenshard (11:51:40 PM): im a fucking faggot

roland756 (3:08:13 AM): yeah you have proven me wrong i guess
roland756 (3:08:15 AM): you must have said that
roland756 (3:08:20 AM): that convo certainly happened
kurotenshard (3:08:39 AM): found the thread, looking through posts
kurotenshard (3:09:33 AM): I'm being polite, please treat me with the same respect.
roland756 (3:09:42 AM): lies are not polite im afraid
roland756 (3:09:49 AM): see this is hwy people hate chubbs
roland756 (3:09:59 AM): they lie and think feign ignorance
kurotenshard (3:10:02 AM): Nope, they hate chubbs due to you changing things.
roland756 (3:10:07 AM): sorry
kurotenshard (3:10:07 AM): and refusing to allow them to see otherwise.
kurotenshard (3:10:10 AM): Its alright though.
roland756 (3:10:11 AM): people hated chubbs long before me
kurotenshard (3:10:17 AM): Your rpg is a decent one and will do well.
roland756 (3:10:20 AM): thus the creation of DBR
kurotenshard (3:10:32 AM): I like a lot of things about it, and do feel that it should succeed in its game.
roland756 (3:10:38 AM): so your little shit festival of a counter argument is void
kurotenshard (3:10:46 AM): ?
roland756 (3:10:53 AM): people hated chubbs long before me
kurotenshard (3:10:57 AM): http://cdbzrpg.dracondev.com/forum/threa...post253425
roland756 (3:11:03 AM): its like saying islamists hate westerners cuz of bush
kurotenshard (3:11:09 AM): Oh, I've never said people didn't hate. I was referring to one reason why they hate.
roland756 (3:11:22 AM): LOL
kurotenshard (3:11:22 AM): I agree people hate us just as much as I'd say there are people that hate you or any other person.
roland756 (3:11:23 AM): WTF
roland756 (3:11:28 AM): I KNEW IT WOULD BE A NAME IVE NEVER EVEN FUCKIN SEEN
kurotenshard (3:11:35 AM): its a post.
roland756 (3:11:38 AM): maybe if it had been tissueness or something
kurotenshard (3:11:41 AM): from July 30
kurotenshard (3:11:52 AM): You can't simply insert what you want into these things.
roland756 (3:11:53 AM): wow
roland756 (3:11:56 AM): you are funny
kurotenshard (3:12:02 AM): I showed you a posted proof
roland756 (3:12:03 AM): you cant?
roland756 (3:12:05 AM): why do you mean
kurotenshard (3:12:08 AM): http://cdbzrpg.dracondev.com/forum/threa...r=0&page=4
roland756 (3:12:09 AM): i already showed you the name can be changed
kurotenshard (3:12:11 AM): this entire page posted it.
kurotenshard (3:12:14 AM): I know you can
kurotenshard (3:12:27 AM): I was generalizing "you"
kurotenshard (3:12:45 AM): and saying that you are trying to put proof in places it isn't available.
roland756 (3:13:11 AM): well i have the aim saved
kurotenshard (3:13:12 AM): the bottom post on that page also has something from Frieza on it.
roland756 (3:13:16 AM): and it conveiniantly shows your name there
kurotenshard (3:13:31 AM): of course it would. otherwise it wouldn't allow you to make such claims.
kurotenshard (3:13:45 AM): you have vehemently proven yourself wrong.
kurotenshard (3:13:54 AM): I honestly thought you had some validity to your claims until this.
kurotenshard (3:14:26 AM): I know full well that you are able to edit the posts and show people what you want them to see.
roland756 (3:14:41 AM): well
roland756 (3:14:43 AM): you are a liar
kurotenshard (3:14:45 AM): I will be dealing with Dende in the way that I choose to deal with him.
roland756 (3:14:46 AM): so im sorry yo ucant see that
kurotenshard (3:14:47 AM): Nope.
kurotenshard (3:14:51 AM): and name calling will not fix that.
kurotenshard (3:14:54 AM): well, actually...
roland756 (3:14:55 AM): you have soured relations beween our sites
roland756 (3:14:58 AM): intentionally i may add
roland756 (3:15:05 AM): by lying it was proven to be intentional
kurotenshard (3:15:07 AM): I am a liar as much as anyone is., Yourself included.
roland756 (3:15:11 AM): for there is no motive or reason for your lies
kurotenshard (3:15:12 AM): No.
roland756 (3:15:22 AM): this will be recorded
kurotenshard (3:15:28 AM): Obviously.
roland756 (3:15:30 AM): and shown to those who wonder who is at fault for the sites
kurotenshard (3:15:33 AM): And it will be posted for your site.
roland756 (3:15:42 AM): let it be known that your rpg is at complete fault
kurotenshard (3:15:44 AM): And it will be taken out of context too.
roland756 (3:15:48 AM): and we tried to remedy it
kurotenshard (3:15:48 AM): for?
roland756 (3:15:51 AM): but you would not allow it
kurotenshard (3:16:00 AM): No, I am trying to work with you.
roland756 (3:16:03 AM): only shrouding the proposals in lies
roland756 (3:16:09 AM): good day
kurotenshard (3:16:11 AM): You wish for me to say untruths.
kurotenshard (3:16:20 AM): goodluck man, I do hope your site continues to do well.


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[Reijin]

I'm posting this just to have carbon proof in the event of editing.
As seen, I have had no time to edit names or anything of the sort.
Once again, I reiterate. Do not flame their members or anything to the sort or it will be dealt with. I will be monitoring such activity. He approached me, and immediately backed me into a corner, or tried to.

[Reijin]

I'm attempting to get screenshots.

Why am I doing this? Because I want to make a statement that I hold no ill will toward the members as a general group. There are many people that I've seen there that I respect, be it their Toma, their Mirai Trunks, a large number of others, and I like how the members in general are just continuing about their business enjoying the site.

I've looked at the site. Upon further investigation, I like what I've seen, although it isn't the style I would play. It reminds me of back in the "ayenee" type yahoo chat roleplaying, with "type one and type 2" fighting. Old times.

I will hold responsibility for the comments that I have made, but I WILL NOT be taking blame for comments I have not made.

I realize that things can be modified, so there isn't much I can do about that. If I had a video camera, haha, I'd probably post it, despite being a complete waste of time. I will however, be attempting to post a few screenshots along with a digi cam pic I took of the monitor, at an angle to show how hard it would be to modify (something I learned from spotting photoshopped Magic cards that are faked during new set season).

I wish no ill will of the members there, and I really hope you guys are able to continue your fun without problems, and I greatly apologize for the constant irritations caused by both ends. I wasn't even the person to initiate this conversation.

I want to make a public statement regarding what started this, as I finally found the post that was being claimed at. The post "teh funnies". I found it slightly ironic that we are being blamed for supporting such an act, when at the bottom we have a staff member respond to it stating that they don't wish for someone's site to be trashed (as it was a bit uncalled for, I agree) and locked it. I know about the AIM advertisements we got and such and the situation involving the flaming from the old Yamcha, along with the subsequent banning for such conduct in that picture thread. I can't really go further into that, as it really isn't worth the effort tonight at four am almost. I can say that I apologize again for the actions portrayed in that "funnies" thread. We dealt with it when we could. We try not to simply delete what people say when we don't like it.

I'm not posting this to further the conflict, but hopefully to bring a small amount of ending to it. I have been a member of this site, a STAFF member of this site, since its creation in July/August of 1999, with the emails still in my inbox, and I know what has happened here. I have been informed recently that I have, infact, NOT been a member here that long. I found that slightly ironic, as I still have emails in an old account with timestamps, old forum staff board accesses with old threads involving some of the original staff from when Chris ran the site as owner, even stuff from Jeff Crosby, the staff member from Zento that was King Cold there till the end who later was Turlis here, also known as Maverick or Mav, who later went on to make many greatly successful rpgs that have left many places in our souls. Before he got married and all that jazz

So yeah, here are the shots. I had to copy them to Paint since I don't have Photoshop right now, and had someone convert them from bmp to jpg to prevent massive space issues and ease of posting. Same with the screenshot that I'll be posting.

If anyone has any questions, I will be available at my email address of symbiosychotic@gmail.com I will be willing to answer such questions if worded in a polite manner, but I will block harassment and accusations if necessary. I request to be treated in a civil manner as I will return the favor. I will sometimes be on an AIM known as "kurotenshard" when I wish to speak with the general members and other people, but I rarely get on it since there are too many people on it from years ago to remember everyone. I will not be giving my personal screen name out.

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EDIT: Digicam isn't working correctly. No flash, and beings that it isn't a highly expensive one, the video I tried to do with it did like ten one second vids, so its not worth that much trouble. Look at the timestamps on both though, and if I somehow edited those things to match perfectly and all like that in THAT SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, then someone had better be offering me a job somewhere with damn good pay.