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Mr. Zhu · 11-28-2011, 05:26 PM

Kaden Wrote:One of the things Tryg and I have been frustrated about is that we often feel like there isn't someone suitable for taking a role for us if we want to do something other than ranged or jungle. We were talking about ways to work around that, but it really just comes down to people not having a wide enough variety of champions under their belt. For example, I have a pretty strong Morde that could totally catch people off guard, but what configuration of people would allow me to play that without really sacrificing a role, so to speak?

Well, I can fill all roles except for Jungle and I've been working on my game there so yar. But I do believe it's also an issue of specialization, I mean sure, I can play a mean ranged AD. However, I'm just not in complete flawless practice at ranged AD because I don't practice it non-stop. Whereas, if you put me top, mid or support there are so many characters that I am able to play at a high level there. To me, being in a team is all about specialization. I guess we have to figure out a system that differs "hey we're playing for pleasure" as opposed to "hey we're practicing to actually improve as a team." If we're all playing for pleasure, it's fine to have someone substitute your main role because it gives them a chance to practice it and you a chance to practice another. But in a legitimate team practice, we should definitely stick to the roles that we know is our bread and butter and try to improve ourselves more and more there. Even if you know the lane so well, try new champions, try new bot lane duos, try new jungle lanes etc. Just like all the top teams, while the players can play many different roles and stuff when it comes to scrims, ranked 5's and practice time they always play what they play on the team because it's what moves them forward as a team, instead of trying to figure out things like "hey you should let me jungle this game." Versatility = Good, but in a team of arranged and have certain needed roles and such we need this specialization. So I urge that our team find two things. One, find the role you know you can play and want to specialize in and let everyone know that, possibly in a new thread and we need to define the times we play by practice and non-practice so we know when to put our try-hard faces on and practice hard, or when we can just dick around and try out different stuff. Also, I feel like practicing in Solo Queue ranked is also a good way to go about practicing your role. Sure it's not the best, and the people you meet there are shit ass annoying but when the rest of the team isn't there practicing at a ranked level of play is really not a bad thing at all.

Jonathan Meer · (This post was last modified: 11-29-2011, 05:35 PM by Jonathan Meer.)

Fucking pugs. Couldn't get our Singed (solo top) to buy wards. Told him to buy them, and he said he's always done top without needing to buy wards. He got ganked over and over and over again and we lost because of it.

Piper Juunanagou · 11-30-2011, 03:55 AM

I hate the Sivir changes. She just feels like any other AD carry now.

Kaden · (This post was last modified: 11-30-2011, 03:58 AM by Kaden.)

I love the new Sivir. So much damage. Reset attack timer on Ranged AD is amazing.

Ashe · 11-30-2011, 04:28 AM

Kaden Wrote:I love the new Sivir. So much damage. Reset attack timer on Ranged AD is amazing.

I enjoyed playing around with her earlier. Also, I took Surge (talented) and the moment my opp left mid around level 6, I walked up to the turret, popped Surge and ult and nearly killed the entire tower extremely fast before someone finally got there and caused me to run off (was oom).

Piper Juunanagou · 11-30-2011, 04:59 AM

Kaden Wrote:I love the new Sivir. So much damage. Reset attack timer on Ranged AD is amazing.

Yea, I out-damaged the enemy AD carry by a slim margin, but I just, idda know. I don't feel like I added anything to team fights, aside from popping my ult.

Jonathan Meer · 11-30-2011, 05:39 AM

Nothing is more annoying than coming down from a won top lane to find a super-fed ad carry running around.

Kaden · 11-30-2011, 06:10 AM

Piper Juunanagou Wrote:Yea, I out-damaged the enemy AD carry by a slim margin, but I just, idda know. I don't feel like I added anything to team fights, aside from popping my ult.

She does more AoE damage than most AD carries. So much damage.

Mal Nova · 11-30-2011, 04:07 PM

HATE: A fucking troll Nasus! A fucking Nasus that trolled just because he thought the game was going to end after 4AM est like riot usually does for 'warned patches'.

<_<

>_>

WAIT FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT WAS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO

No, I really went in the game expecting them to end it prematurely. Like just disconnect the servers like they do on Tuesday mornings.

So I didn't try hard for shit.

I was laned with a Olaf agasint a Morde with a Jungle Volibear.

We killed and died. We started with the upper hand till one of us made a few bad decisions.... I think it was both of us misjudging...

I didnt get a chance to farm no where near as much as I wanted to. Next thing I know we lost our tower cuz after seeing Volibear coming up via my ward.... we went and beat him senseless... but he managed to get behind Morde... with low assed health.

I wanted that VOLIBEAR! It cost me... then I dont know what Olaf did but we lost tower... lanes kinda changed then.... and every chance I got... I was trying to farm... and blow down top turrets.

I actually got the two up top... died once for it.... but by then I was really expecting the game to freeze and that Olaf just wouldnt STFU.

He asked for me to be reported and the other enemy team was like.... "Dude he's the only one taking towers for y'all."

I bust out laughing and say im going to bot.... sadly its close to where all the fighting has been occuring in our jungle>_> I push my way through... help snag a few kills.... and die before tower because of all the fighting.

Sivir and Teemo actually damage tower and it's literally got a single Punch of mine remaining for health. So I begin the treck again... MORE FIGHTING! We stomp.... VOlibear is missing.. im alone....

Next thing I know im low health and Volibear appears.... I can either run to the tower.... take it out... or RTY to make it to my tower... all the way back the other way.....

We know what I did... lol.... Wither! To the tower! Q! BOOM! And.... Volibear finally got me... Had my exhuast been up I would have escaped.

I found the tower hilarious and so did the enemy.

Of course that was the third and final tower I/we took.... They stomped us afterwards with Baron

Jonathan Meer · 11-30-2011, 06:03 PM

tl;dr

Rafael · 11-30-2011, 06:13 PM

So, Sivir takeaway is my 6 bucks on the Tron skin was worth it?

Jonathan Meer · 11-30-2011, 06:36 PM

what?

Rafael · (This post was last modified: 12-01-2011, 11:45 PM by Rafael.)

I bought the Pax Sivir skin 'cuz I found it on the cheap even though I never use her.

Also, rage: ten kills in twenty minutes, but bot and top lost something awful and the enemy team does what 90% of teams that beat me do: they grouped into 5. Dunno why no team I'm ever on understands why being grouped is better than getting wolves, but I got one more kill and ten more deaths before we just surrendered.

Jarka · 12-03-2011, 07:07 PM

So we stomp them in laning phase, right? Legit, 12-2 or some shit like that. Three of their outer towers down. We get into a teamfight mid near their inner turret - fiddle ult over the wall means it doesn't go so well for us. I think we lost two for one of them.

Xin Zhao says "Fuck this I'm going afk." Then he proceeds to disconnect.

Humorously enough, we were pretty much even for towers even with a 4v5 until our Vayne and Zilean decided to suicide pretty much every fight.

Goddamn ranked solo queue.

Rafael · (This post was last modified: 12-05-2011, 03:06 AM by Rafael.)

dear god attempting to learn shaco is a trying process. I know he can be fun, I can see the potential!

Jonathan Meer · 12-06-2011, 05:22 AM

I really fucking hate trolly games in normals. I want my win of the day. I don't want to waste 20+ minutes of my time playing with a bunch of slapdicks who think purposefully running into a 1v5 is lulzy, or who constantly get caught in the enemy jungle because 'after all, it's just a normal.'

Piper Juunanagou · 12-06-2011, 05:29 AM

Inversely, I hate people who are hyper fucking serious about normals.

I went 3/4/12 in a game and someone on my team bitched at me for "feeding" (the average death count on my team was nearly 7.

Mal Nova · 12-06-2011, 06:28 AM

Jonathan Meer Wrote:I really fucking hate trolly games in normals. I want my win of the day. I don't want to waste 20+ minutes of my time playing with a bunch of slapdicks who think purposefully running into a 1v5 is lulzy, or who constantly get caught in the enemy jungle because 'after all, it's just a normal.'

Lol And you wonder why I just quietly stepped back into the shadows when you guys wanted to play a gimmick game?

Noxian TEam..... pshhh... lol my Katarina is Fail =D

John Doe · 12-07-2011, 09:45 PM

So, I died to blue golem twice...

because my pots healed me for negative damage. Minus the negative.

Jonathan Meer · 12-07-2011, 11:47 PM

Sounds like your champ was a Christian Scientist. Bad luck bro

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