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Quote:Originally posted by Kollifum
You broke the quote Yaj.
And my mom smokes pot, doesn't mean she'd read a book about high school kids who do. Not to mention the fact she'd break my thumbs if she caught me doing drugs.
And Gokua, you seem to interact with a minority. Not enough to sustain successful sales of a book by any stretch of the imagination.
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Quote:Originally posted by Garlic Jr
As long as you have a core of good, believable, well fleshed out characters it would make a good book.
QFT
If you can make the characters strong enough and get the humor right, I think it would be a great book. I'd probably buy it.
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See, you just need to make your story take place in space.
I once read a book about a guy who was a druggy and he flew an awesome spaceship and was a bad ass. The book was called "Space Bastards" (check it out, unless you hate liberal stuff).
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Or make all the kids be ninja. How often have you ever heard of ninja sitting around getting high? Or talking to each other about their problems?
I'm being quite serious, btw.
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I still wanna do a 4-6 person Heroes fan fiction
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Quote:Originally posted by Yajirobe
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Have you ever smoked pot?
Yes.
quote] Originally posted by Garlic Jr
Just a note that my good friend Mary, whose moniker comes form his smoking habits, is an avid reader.
As long as you have a core of good, believable, well fleshed out characters it would make a good book.[/quote]
While that may be true, I was jus stating that some people's ideas that 'smokers' can relate to this book is a poor thing to bet on. As your friend is most likely part of a minority of avid pot smokers.
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No offense but unless a book has enough graphical content (ex: description on corpses) with just a tad bit of suspence, horror, maybe a bit of language. Then you have to have a plot that would be for thrillers sacks to catch my attention. Unless it's a good murder/horror book I really never read. Other then that unless your a manga artist in the making don't try and get my attention.
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A graphic novel.
There's an idea.
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Gokua, as long as you know what it is that you want to write about you will find out for yourself just how it is that you want to write that. To make that seem a little bit less confusing, the first step to actually writing something is knowing the idea, the topic, the theme or whatever you want to call it, and then figure out (through some actual decision making or just discovering it on the way) how you are going to go about it. The mere fact that you've sat down and said "I want to write about a bunch of high school students, doing drugs, and their individual personal problems" is more than enough to start yourself off. Just go and start writing about it. The more familiar you are with what you're writing about, the better off you'll be when it comes to actually pumping out some serious writing.
Also, don't fret about the idea of getting it published, or people reading it. To be frank, actually being able to complete a full sized novel and read it yourself, give it to your friends and family, etc, is more than enough of a reason to write it. Getting it published is one step up- a big step mind you... It's bloody hard to get a novel published. Making any money off a book is just a sign that people have actually read it. Having people read your work, and enjoying the process of writing it, is much more important than anything else.
As for the idea of needing to plan out your novel... It really depends on your definition of "a plan". Like I already said, all you need is to know what you want to write about, and to have a passion for what you'll be writing. You don't need to think about anything other than that. You need not know where you're going, how you'll get there or even where you're coming from. All you need is the want to do it, and the basic idea of what it is you want to write. Unless you have some time limit on your work, you'll have as much time as you want to figure it all out as you go along.
On a side note, I finished what I refer to as "Draft Zero" of my novel late last year. Took me two and a half years to finish, and all I started with was that I wanted to write some epic fantasy tale with a Dragon for a main character. Now it's not just a novel, but a world and a history and the ideas for several more books too, and that Dragon who I started with is much more than he first was. I don't know if I'll ever get it published, and even if I do that's a fair way off (I still havn't finished my first run of editing for my "First Draft" yet), but finishing it has been more than enough for me.
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Quote:Originally posted by Android 14
Gokua, as long as you know what it is that you want to write about you will find out for yourself just how it is that you want to write that. To make that seem a little bit less confusing, the first step to actually writing something is knowing the idea, the topic, the theme or whatever you want to call it, and then figure out (through some actual decision making or just discovering it on the way) how you are going to go about it. The mere fact that you've sat down and said "I want to write about a bunch of high school students, doing drugs, and their individual personal problems" is more than enough to start yourself off. Just go and start writing about it. The more familiar you are with what you're writing about, the better off you'll be when it comes to actually pumping out some serious writing.
Also, don't fret about the idea of getting it published, or people reading it. To be frank, actually being able to complete a full sized novel and read it yourself, give it to your friends and family, etc, is more than enough of a reason to write it. Getting it published is one step up- a big step mind you... It's bloody hard to get a novel published. Making any money off a book is just a sign that people have actually read it. Having people read your work, and enjoying the process of writing it, is much more important than anything else.
As for the idea of needing to plan out your novel... It really depends on your definition of "a plan". Like I already said, all you need is to know what you want to write about, and to have a passion for what you'll be writing. You don't need to think about anything other than that. You need not know where you're going, how you'll get there or even where you're coming from. All you need is the want to do it, and the basic idea of what it is you want to write. Unless you have some time limit on your work, you'll have as much time as you want to figure it all out as you go along.
On a side note, I finished what I refer to as "Draft Zero" of my novel late last year. Took me two and a half years to finish, and all I started with was that I wanted to write some epic fantasy tale with a Dragon for a main character. Now it's not just a novel, but a world and a history and the ideas for several more books too, and that Dragon who I started with is much more than he first was. I don't know if I'll ever get it published, and even if I do that's a fair way off (I still haven't finished my first run of editing for my "First Draft" yet), but finishing it has been more than enough for me.
Don't think too hard on it, just go do it. If you hold up too much, you'll never do it.
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Do you have an abridged version of your post?
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And here I didn't think anyone in real life said 'that's how I roll' XD
I think the idea of a graphic novel would be excellent.
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Quote:Originally posted by Kollifum
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And here I didn't think anyone in real life said 'that's how I roll' XD
I think the idea of a graphic novel would be excellent.
It kind of would. The only ones I have seen thou are more or less comics and those are about a halo.
Well life is like a box of chocolates.
It's either crunchy or has a soft gooey center. =/
Eh, good point, forgive me.
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Quote:Originally posted by Android 14
Well life is like a box of chocolates.
It's either crunchy or has a soft gooey center. =/
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Like you've been following the spam off rule. =x
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I HAVE!
At least by adding a little comment that relates to the topic in my post somewhere. >.>
Gokua, do you have any outlines for your characters yet? What their specific problems are and so forth?
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Getting an idea (or inspiration) is a spontanious act. You can`t affect it, it just happens. But as you think about it, you start adding more and more to it. Note that you DO NOT think out the entire story (trust me, I tried, it didn`t work out), but you do get the basic outline of your story. That is when you are able to start writing.
The problem, however, is if you only have one thing to rely on such as in your case (it seems). If you have nothing to add to that basic idea or concept, then you`ll likely end up with a poorly-made storyline.
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I'll read this later. High outta my mind. =D
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