11-02-2009, 11:10 PM
Ok, you are operating on a few assumptions. Not sure how many I feel like addressing.
One of them. You state that the diamond MUST be found under a rock, in your example. Then he goes back, gives it, it travels forth, and a new diamond MUST be found. Its the only way to work that example. However, what would be more likely and fitting is a self fulfilling prophecy, in the manner that he gives the diamond, etc etc, it goes through the people's hands, and then the diamond is given to Reece, who then goes back in time and sends it through circulation.
But the entire movie series is a big grandfather paradox as the basis of the plot. Its pretty common.
Want real time travel? Light travels from distant stars to reach your eyes. You take in this light through your optical nerves and process it into an image. However, the image that you see is NOT what the current star looks like. That star could have fucking super nova'd by now, we won't know. Because if its far enough away, we will see it as being entirely there as a star for 5000 years if it needs to, depending on how far away it is (and operating under the assumption that it was big enough to send light to us that far).
So this star hasn't been in existence for 5000 years. Regardless, it will be on every star map, and even in the days of space age travel (if such a day is possible), it will become known as a planetary illusion. While on specific planets that are far enough apart (let's say one is closer to the star by a few hundred light years than the other), one will see the super nova taking place in real time, the furthest will see the star still there, and the closest will see absolutely nothing there anymore. It will be widely known that this star no longer exists, but people will INSIST that it clearly IS there due to the "common sense" that anyone can go out and see it with their own two eyes.
Setting all that aside, realize that anyone, anything, anywhere, will always be a ghost of the past. Even if its by fractions of fractions of fractions of a second, it still requires the time for the light to bounce off of the image and reach your eyes. This means that no matter how good your reflexes are, you will always be just a tiny bit behind perfect response time. And you'll never see what anything technically looks like in present day.
You are the only thing that exists in the present.
One of them. You state that the diamond MUST be found under a rock, in your example. Then he goes back, gives it, it travels forth, and a new diamond MUST be found. Its the only way to work that example. However, what would be more likely and fitting is a self fulfilling prophecy, in the manner that he gives the diamond, etc etc, it goes through the people's hands, and then the diamond is given to Reece, who then goes back in time and sends it through circulation.
But the entire movie series is a big grandfather paradox as the basis of the plot. Its pretty common.
Want real time travel? Light travels from distant stars to reach your eyes. You take in this light through your optical nerves and process it into an image. However, the image that you see is NOT what the current star looks like. That star could have fucking super nova'd by now, we won't know. Because if its far enough away, we will see it as being entirely there as a star for 5000 years if it needs to, depending on how far away it is (and operating under the assumption that it was big enough to send light to us that far).
So this star hasn't been in existence for 5000 years. Regardless, it will be on every star map, and even in the days of space age travel (if such a day is possible), it will become known as a planetary illusion. While on specific planets that are far enough apart (let's say one is closer to the star by a few hundred light years than the other), one will see the super nova taking place in real time, the furthest will see the star still there, and the closest will see absolutely nothing there anymore. It will be widely known that this star no longer exists, but people will INSIST that it clearly IS there due to the "common sense" that anyone can go out and see it with their own two eyes.
Setting all that aside, realize that anyone, anything, anywhere, will always be a ghost of the past. Even if its by fractions of fractions of fractions of a second, it still requires the time for the light to bounce off of the image and reach your eyes. This means that no matter how good your reflexes are, you will always be just a tiny bit behind perfect response time. And you'll never see what anything technically looks like in present day.
You are the only thing that exists in the present.

