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06-29-2010, 01:16 AM
Mr. Zhu Wrote:Lol.. Honestly? You thought Lyoto controlled that fight? Even though the hits by Shogun weren't clear shots, but 2 minutes into the fight he had already hurt Lyoto once with a straight. Then Lyoto took him down for the second time, and to be honest, that wasn't a real takedown. Shogun tried to shift weight and hip toss him, but did not have the leverage and the technique blackfired into a "takedown" by Lyoto. Throughout the first 3 minutes of the fight, Lyoto landed nothing but two knees one solid straight in the first 15 seconds and one half-assed elbow when he was on top. Shogun swept him with complete ease and got the fight standing up almost immediately after being taken down. You should really hop off Lyoto's nuts and watch the fight with your eyes. You can evade as many hits in a fight as you want, but if you're not throwing or landing you're not winning a fight from pure evasion. Also, to counter the "puncher's chance" bullshit, Shogun located Lyoto's chin and hurt him once already before the eventually finish. When it happens once it's chance, when it happens again it's truth.
lyoto was using an attrition style. two takedowns where he never lost top position, forcing shogun to carry both of them up in order to get the fight back into standup (where machida wants it to be), it's pretty obvious that fighting on the ground was not machida's strategy.

but whatever. you start off by exaggerating a punch that hit lyoto, downplay shogun's silly throw attempt that failed against a "hurt" machida as well as machida always getting the better of the ground game, and even after admitting to some of lyoto's attacks (the two best strikes in his arsenal being body-knees in the clinch and straight counters) you then claim that he wasn't throwing OR landing, without addressing how his evasion was dictating the pace of the standup... :/
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