01-09-2011, 09:29 PM
'Tis the way the discussion is going.
I edited it down multiple times to get it to that point.
It's to point out what I see as a significant problem in this discussion: Because nothing has been said about the exact intricacies of the system (whereas the themes have been expressed quite clearly, and discussed), it seems that multiple people (most recently Jarka) have taken it upon themselves to say 'Look here, there are ridiculous ways the intricacies can be painted, therefore I think we should really wonder about these themes.'
I'm being so militant about it here and now because I know how the Chubbs community works when it comes to discussing these things. Matters get blown shit-ton out-of-proportion in a matter of a half-page. Before you know it, people are lined up against this strange, obviously flawed rendition of the system that Jarka criticized (and that no one has ever suggested; we call such a thing a 'straw man,' if it is done purposefully), and decisions and stances are formed in the controversy that flows out of it.
And I don't want that to happen to this, because I really like the community-grading idea, and I don't want it to get fucked up the ass. And I am not in any way suggesting Jarka and Vic did this intentionally. I'm 100% certain I've operated in the exact same capacity on any number of discussions that have happened here in the past.
I edited it down multiple times to get it to that point.
It's to point out what I see as a significant problem in this discussion: Because nothing has been said about the exact intricacies of the system (whereas the themes have been expressed quite clearly, and discussed), it seems that multiple people (most recently Jarka) have taken it upon themselves to say 'Look here, there are ridiculous ways the intricacies can be painted, therefore I think we should really wonder about these themes.'
I'm being so militant about it here and now because I know how the Chubbs community works when it comes to discussing these things. Matters get blown shit-ton out-of-proportion in a matter of a half-page. Before you know it, people are lined up against this strange, obviously flawed rendition of the system that Jarka criticized (and that no one has ever suggested; we call such a thing a 'straw man,' if it is done purposefully), and decisions and stances are formed in the controversy that flows out of it.
And I don't want that to happen to this, because I really like the community-grading idea, and I don't want it to get fucked up the ass. And I am not in any way suggesting Jarka and Vic did this intentionally. I'm 100% certain I've operated in the exact same capacity on any number of discussions that have happened here in the past.