01-10-2011, 05:26 AM
Josh Wrote:I still fail to see any response to how this will work out. CL doesn't take into account the fact that Power Level is what the stat system is based on, it's a pleasant thought that we can have people who have a lot of techniques and a low power levels, but it lacks any consistency IC and OOC.
We have very strict rules on the techniques that are allowed on the RPG, so as not to overpower characters unfairly. But the internal logic of the RPG is broken if we allow someone with a lower power level to win against someone who's got a higher power level simply because they have the same CL.
Simply knowing a variety of different and advanced techniques doesn't matter if you lack the sufficient power to make them useful. An example of this is Tenshinhan using the Shin Kikohou on 2nd Form Cell, despite it being incredibly powerful and broken(It used his Soul not Ki) it didn't even harm Cell it just annoyed him until Tenshinhan was almost dead.
What use is Kienzan if you're too slow to even notice that your opponent has his fist in your chest.
We simply don't allow broken techniques on the RPG, especially ones that would allow this difference in power to not matter. We're not gonna let people use "Magic" like Babidi who could take over anyones mind regardless as long as they were evil- because it's god modding.
Even if we did allow that, it still wouldn't help. Because then the high PL characters would simply purchase one broken technique and rape the crap out of people with their high power level and broken technique.
What point is there to PL in this new system anyway, if we're going to ignore the power discrepancy between characters in favor of techniques and CL then it should be dropped as well as stats. Then you'd only have CL, Techniques, and Items.
No offense dawg, but this forum ain't anime, and never has been.
Check this out:
|||CL is an OOC stat, which is the product of a person's production and quality over time, and is a determining factor in the resolution of fights, as well as some other ventures.|||
This is the function of CL in the system Kaden sketched out above. In light of this, your criticism is, essentially (once the whole 'hey, akira toriyama never fucking did it this way' is swept to the side) 'CL doesn't make sense IC.'
But hey, that's cool. It doesn't have to. It's an OOC stat. Just like it never needed to make IC-sense that, every week, Krillin became about 2% more Determined, whether or not he'd bothered to do jackshit that week. Just like it doesn't need to make IC-sense now that Jon can just scrape his dick along a cobblestone street for 50000 words and end up extrem-o powerful.
In light of this, if your criticism would then morph into 'Well, CL should be IC,' I'd be interested in hearing why. And why you've been (apparently, largely) silent over the last six years that I've been here, where previous systems have made even less sense IC.
Or, easier, I would just respond 'CL should not be IC,' and let things play out.