01-10-2011, 03:26 PM
Josh Wrote:No offense dawg, but that's irrelevant. I used an example from DBZ because this is a DBZ RPG, and need a simple example.
This is a DBZ RPG in terms of subject matter. This is not, and never has been, a DBZ RPG in terms of the 'game system.'
Quote:That's cool, it doesn't have to? Your reasoning is that because Kaden said "It's an OOC Stat", it doesn't have to make sense despite the fact that it affects IC fight resolution, and breaks the internal logic of the RPG.
Kuririn becoming more determined didn't change the fact that he was a human being and significantly weaker then his Saiyajin friend counter parts, despite being just as or more determined as them.
Except that Jon scraping his dick along the ground can be explained as him simply growing stronger over time, through the experience of him dragging his dick along the ground.
Being able to reasonably fight and win against someone who's so fast and strong that you can't even perceive their movement is hilarious to say the least. A anorexic girl could have mastered Karate, BJJ, and Kung Fu but it's not going to matter against a heavy weight amateur MMA fighter.
It does not break the internal logic of the RPG, because the RPG has been built around the possibility that the weaker can defeat the stronger. It's not hard to make it work in IC, in a world where people can shoot laser beams out of their ass. This delineation between OOC and IC has worked for many years.
Your two replies to my examples seem weak enough to count as concessions.
On your final point in this quote block, I, in essence, agree. When you paint it out to it's far-flung extremes, a sheer newbie shouldn't stand a chance in hell against an established and gifted veteran. But, of course, that's by-and-far the exception. 99.9% of the resolutions this system will have to determine will not be in regard to individuals 20x stronger than other individuals (by virtue of the diminishing returns). When those things come up, we'll deal with them.
Quote:CL is IC because it affects the outcome of IC fights, to say it's an "OOC" stat is irrelevant. As for why I've been silent for 6 years is because you're not staff, most of the discussions I have regarding mechanics is with the staff itself and not members in general.
Don't confuse the fact that I don't grade quests, and approve techniques with a lack of interest in the RPG. As Kaden can attest, we've argued numerous times over mechanics regarding the RPG.
One of them being diminishing returns, something I tried to push during the turn over.
Edit: The fact that you have access to the Development Forum and still try and make it sound like I've been silent shows that you're an ass.
Fair enough on all this. I didn't remember you saying much of anything in the Dev Forum, but a search shows I was wrong.