04-26-2011, 06:52 PM
Was talking to Trygelan before he signed off last night. There are just some thing we need to do differently given everyone's preferred playstyle that we think could help our team overall.
I definitely appreciate that you want to be more serious in a more competitive environment. Generally I feel the same way. It's more interesting to test yourself against people who are actually trying than against people who are just dicking around.
That said, it frustrates ME when people (and you're not the only one, by far) use that as an excuse to not leave their comfort zone to the detriment of the rest of the team. If the team needs a tank, it needs a tank. Someone has to suck it up and start learning to tank. If we have an AP carry, an AP support, and an AP tank, what we need is ANYTHING other than AP. That happened a couple times last night.
Here's the other thing. Sorry if this sounds mean to anyone, but that's not the intent. We have like two people who can play a hard carry appropriately -- I'll call it two and a half -- and that's because the rest generally exercise poor judgment when playing those champions. If you're a squishy carry, stay in the back but remember to be aggressive. Don't over-commit for the sake of aggressiveness if your team isn't there to back you up. Don't wander to another lane or go back to buy if it means leaving your team without any damage. Don't be so aggressive you're the furthest forward in your team (part of that is on the tank, but if you're forcing them forward they're going to get rocked). Don't be so timid that it takes you five seconds to get into the team fight because you were so far back.
Most importantly, though, and this goes to everyone, if two teams are dancing around in a lane BE PREPARED TO COMMIT. Multiple times when I was playing Cho I rupture/silenced into a team fight and said "ok, let's go" and guess what? I was dead before anyone else got into the fight. Or two people had already wandered off to somewhere else. If your team is in a stand-off like that, stay there and be paying attention. Yes, that may mean letting a tower take some minion damage. Yes that may mean waiting a minute or two to complete an item. Yes that may mean getting into a fight without getting Red/Blue/Dragon/whatever first. That's better than losing three teammates and consequently being able to do absolutely nothing to stop the enemy when they plow through two turrets.
All of the above happened while playing last night. There was just some poor judgment. I did some of them myself, I'm not about to deny that. If I had been paying more attention as Cho, I might have seen someone had wandered off or that not everyone was as near as I thought they were. I was playing under assumptions I should not have been and that's just as dangerous as anything else.
If anyone feels the need to come back and rationalize anything because they feel like they're being targeted, fine. You're welcome to explain why you thought you made the right call and then I'll come back and tell you why I thought you made the wrong one and we can go back and forth and waste our time pounding our heads against the wall. Instead, though, remember I'm trying to help people, not berate them. No one enjoys losing game after game. Even if you can tolerate it, no one LIKES it. I would absolutely love to see everyone here get better and us able to be reasonably competitive as a team. That would amazing.
If I sound harsh during a game that's because I'm frustrated, but I hope everyone knows that my intention is ALWAYS to help. Having said all that, I'll be here if people want to play tonight.
I definitely appreciate that you want to be more serious in a more competitive environment. Generally I feel the same way. It's more interesting to test yourself against people who are actually trying than against people who are just dicking around.
That said, it frustrates ME when people (and you're not the only one, by far) use that as an excuse to not leave their comfort zone to the detriment of the rest of the team. If the team needs a tank, it needs a tank. Someone has to suck it up and start learning to tank. If we have an AP carry, an AP support, and an AP tank, what we need is ANYTHING other than AP. That happened a couple times last night.
Here's the other thing. Sorry if this sounds mean to anyone, but that's not the intent. We have like two people who can play a hard carry appropriately -- I'll call it two and a half -- and that's because the rest generally exercise poor judgment when playing those champions. If you're a squishy carry, stay in the back but remember to be aggressive. Don't over-commit for the sake of aggressiveness if your team isn't there to back you up. Don't wander to another lane or go back to buy if it means leaving your team without any damage. Don't be so aggressive you're the furthest forward in your team (part of that is on the tank, but if you're forcing them forward they're going to get rocked). Don't be so timid that it takes you five seconds to get into the team fight because you were so far back.
Most importantly, though, and this goes to everyone, if two teams are dancing around in a lane BE PREPARED TO COMMIT. Multiple times when I was playing Cho I rupture/silenced into a team fight and said "ok, let's go" and guess what? I was dead before anyone else got into the fight. Or two people had already wandered off to somewhere else. If your team is in a stand-off like that, stay there and be paying attention. Yes, that may mean letting a tower take some minion damage. Yes that may mean waiting a minute or two to complete an item. Yes that may mean getting into a fight without getting Red/Blue/Dragon/whatever first. That's better than losing three teammates and consequently being able to do absolutely nothing to stop the enemy when they plow through two turrets.
All of the above happened while playing last night. There was just some poor judgment. I did some of them myself, I'm not about to deny that. If I had been paying more attention as Cho, I might have seen someone had wandered off or that not everyone was as near as I thought they were. I was playing under assumptions I should not have been and that's just as dangerous as anything else.
If anyone feels the need to come back and rationalize anything because they feel like they're being targeted, fine. You're welcome to explain why you thought you made the right call and then I'll come back and tell you why I thought you made the wrong one and we can go back and forth and waste our time pounding our heads against the wall. Instead, though, remember I'm trying to help people, not berate them. No one enjoys losing game after game. Even if you can tolerate it, no one LIKES it. I would absolutely love to see everyone here get better and us able to be reasonably competitive as a team. That would amazing.
If I sound harsh during a game that's because I'm frustrated, but I hope everyone knows that my intention is ALWAYS to help. Having said all that, I'll be here if people want to play tonight.
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