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[Jarka]

I'm not much on the giving up thing... dont think I ever will. I mean when I started looking into the game it was you people that said don't get frustrated if you're losing after the first 20 minutes of the game....

This is another one of those "we've had a lot more experience and can judge situations a lot better than you" sort of things.

There are some champs that are late game champs. These are the ones that can turn around a seemingly lost game by scaling ridiculously well, especially against champs that are really only a presence early game. Or there are champs whose utility doesn't really show up until mid to late game. For instance, vision Teemo has turned games around for me before by allowing our team to never be surprised by the enemy's movement, utility that just doesn't have as much of an impact until he's had time to shroom the map.

LeBlanc can tear shit up early game. Late game she just becomes nonexistant (sorry, Joe, but it's usually true).

Master Yi is notorious for being able to herp derp down towers late game, allowing a losing team to seize victory unless the other team reacts to him.

That being said, team comp can be secondary to the actual skills of the players. A game is rarely lost at champ select.

We've got a lot better knowledge of where the game stands than you do. Especially when you're playing with us - low to mid level play is a lot different than the skill levels you will be matched with when you're with us. If you pull your Jax tower dive with pugs, it may work due to the inexperience/terror of the enemy team you're matched with. If you do that when matched with 30s you probably aren't going to be successful.

In addition, as Sigfried said, as soon as one person says they are not having fun past the laning phase, it is worth considering a surrender. The whole point is to have fun, not to suffer for an hour because of a teammate's pride.

Basically, if Kaden or Tryg or one of the other supes pros we play with calls a surrender, it is probably highly unlikely to get a victory. Look at the game conditions and ask why. You'll learn a ton from their answers. Or, just them until you've had a bit more experience.