That was a general 'you' not a jarka 'you'.
Either way, I'd argue that Ori or Nid are better taken in roles other than support because they are just wayyyy better that way (because they need said farm). Sort of the point of the ranged AD/support setup is that you let the ranged AD farm so they can carry, and you are just there to enable that. Nid and Ori, while I guess they can fufill that role, are sub-optimal to other champ choices in addition to being way better in a solo mid or solo top spot. Same goes for cho'gath for top/jungle, and yes I know you enjoy support cho down bottom.
My point is, if someone wants to play the support/ad carry bot setup, then said someone should go into it with a champ that works with that. That means champs other than ones you need to compete for last hits with, because now you're just defying the very setup you intended to play. If you don't, then well anything goes I guess.
I do agree about the post-laning phase stuff.
Either way, I'd argue that Ori or Nid are better taken in roles other than support because they are just wayyyy better that way (because they need said farm). Sort of the point of the ranged AD/support setup is that you let the ranged AD farm so they can carry, and you are just there to enable that. Nid and Ori, while I guess they can fufill that role, are sub-optimal to other champ choices in addition to being way better in a solo mid or solo top spot. Same goes for cho'gath for top/jungle, and yes I know you enjoy support cho down bottom.
My point is, if someone wants to play the support/ad carry bot setup, then said someone should go into it with a champ that works with that. That means champs other than ones you need to compete for last hits with, because now you're just defying the very setup you intended to play. If you don't, then well anything goes I guess.
I do agree about the post-laning phase stuff.
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