04-10-2012, 08:58 AM
Just got absolutely destroyed by a 27/5/10 Talon top laner this game. We had two pugs, the silent only-ulted-for-kill-steals Blitz top laner, and our fifth pick sudden jungle Leona armchair general.
Surprisingly, for the absolute and total stomp fest, I personally had fun despite this (and despite Leona just bitching up a storm all game), because what I was watching from that Talon/Lee/Galio combination was like a damn dance.
Best part, to me, is that despite Talon being double everyone else's gold earned and their lowest gold earned (support Nunu) being only .5k below our highest gold earned (Tryg on MF), they were absolutely and totally cool about it. I stuck around and talked to Lee and Talon for quite a while about their perspective on that game, what could have been done differently, and how they felt about things. They were completely mature about it and we all wished each other well and moved on. I almost say faith restored, but I know the rest of the community.
Post game chatlog, for anyone bored. Mostly about laning phase and talon related stuff.
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xxMewxx: noob talon
Dariden: XD
duhizy: lee sin counter jungle to stronk
Dariden: Yeah
Mosqiil: first time leona
Trygelan: leona jungle too... well
Mosqiil: meh
duhizy: ye
duhizy: shes not much of a strong jungler
Dariden: No one on our team could get any gold to survive dat burst
Mosqiil: i could survive it
Mosqiil: but the rest of them got fed, too
Famitsu: your 15 deaths prove that
duhizy: when the jugnler is that slow
Kid Prismatic: XD
duhizy: just take all their buffs lol
Mosqiil: the rest of them ^
Dariden: XD
Mosqiil: read, bro
Mosqiil: and lee counter jungled me too hard at the beginning
Mosqiil: it set me back
Mosqiil: gj ee
Trygelan: because you were playing leona
Kid Prismatic: shoulda never ganked me\
Kid Prismatic: XD
Famitsu: next time dont last pick leona when we already had a blitz and taric
Trygelan: leona is a horrible jungler
Dariden: Leona has been raging at us all game
Dariden: but bottom line is we did not need a 4th and 5th pick blitz/leona
Dariden: we needed dmg
Dariden: and ONE tank
Kid Prismatic: lol
duhizy: hmm
Dariden: blitz ONLY used his ult if it could ks, drove me nuts
duhizy: lee can pretty much do that to everyone
Kid Prismatic: i still like that flash at the nexus turrets heim
Dariden: I was terrified
Dariden: you got near blink range
Dariden: and I was like
Kid Prismatic: i took like a step towards u and u flashed XD
Dariden: NOPENOPENOPE
Kid Prismatic: LOL
Dariden: Leona's like "WTF KILL TALON"
Kid Prismatic: lol
Dariden: I'm like "...*explode*
Kid Prismatic: i can't believe i didnt need my ult to kill u lol so squishy
Kid Prismatic: W-Q dead heimer lol
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: Leona was like "how do you not have hourglass yet? and only 111 armor?"
Dariden: I'm like "... I can totally afford to buy a 3600g item right now, and should totally be building full tank"
Dariden: Galio was a good mid choice
Kid Prismatic: lol yea
Dariden: been trying him lately again
Dariden: he's great against current mid meta
Kid Prismatic: oh big time
Dariden: goes to lane with 102 MR and hits like a truck
Dariden: problem is needs mana
Kid Prismatic: cuz he can buy merc treads to counter u without hindering his dmg
Dariden: and I tend to get junglers that won't give up blue when I play him
Dariden: exactly
Dariden: he nearly two shotted me at lvl 3
Kid Prismatic: XD
Dariden: and leona couldn't understand why I wouldn't run past him to go gank you at red
Dariden: you = lee
Kid Prismatic: yea leona making bad choices
Dariden: we needed more ward coverage as well
Dariden: (as a team)
Kid Prismatic: yea
Dariden: I tried to drop a few
Dariden: but a wild talon appeared
Kid Prismatic:
Dariden: good to see a successful talon though
Kid Prismatic: i like it
Dariden: whenever I try him
Dariden: I seem to run oom fairly hard
Dariden: though laning against blitz
Kid Prismatic: yea that mana regen nerf hurts
Dariden: probably helped
Dariden: less spam on the cone attack
Dariden: more last hitting
Dariden: what type of masteries did you take?
Kid Prismatic: to be a successful talon i guess is to manage early game
Kid Prismatic: 21-0-9
Dariden: gotcha
Kid Prismatic: standard AD stuff through offense mana stuff through utility
Dariden: think I always tend to try 9/21/0 for sustain
Kid Prismatic: lol talon isnt that kind of a champ
Dariden: but that's hurting on the mana too and not utilizing dmg
Kid Prismatic: yup
Kid Prismatic: controling your early game determines a talon
Dariden: do you tend to have a hard time against the typical Lee/Shyv top?
Kid Prismatic: yea they are an issue
duhizy: nope
duhizy: because i gank for him
Kid Prismatic: lol he ganks for me lets me snowball XD
Dariden: XD
Kid Prismatic: but typically yea they'll be tough
duhizy: then i comence to take all the junglez
Dariden: XD
Kid Prismatic: Lee especially cuz of his damn E
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: better when it was double castable
Dariden: totally not broken at all
Kid Prismatic: lol that was so broke XD
Dariden: fastest jungler of all time with that
Kid Prismatic: dbl damage just because u lagged what?
Dariden: do you level your Rake most?
Kid Prismatic: yeap
Dariden: followed by Q?
Kid Prismatic: yup
Kid Prismatic: what to take at lvl 2 is up to u
Dariden: yeah, same. Only played him rarely though
Kid Prismatic: im actually coming back into him
Kid Prismatic: duhizy over here convincing me to come back to talon xD
Kid Prismatic: 13-3 in ranked so far
Dariden: seems like he'd have a rough time with tankier champs
Kid Prismatic: he does haha
Kid Prismatic: that's the challenge of talon
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: one of the few games that helps you see the strengths of him
Dariden: instead of feeling he really needs buffed
Dariden: though I do think his mana costs should get a look
Dariden: or regen
Kid Prismatic: his regen imo
Kid Prismatic: mana costs are fine
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: the costs seem fine
Kid Prismatic: yea they aren't a big deal but the regen is so low that you go oom at lvl 1 after like 6 rakes
Dariden: yeah
Kid Prismatic: and raking is risky cuz u push everytime you rake
Dariden: surprised you didn't have to build some kind of mana item
Kid Prismatic: my only mana item is my tri-force
Dariden: i hated going chalice here instead of tear but wasn't being given blue and really needed the mr
Dariden: true, an early sheen prob helps
Kid Prismatic: yea
Kid Prismatic: but like i said the thing about talon is just pure control of everything
Kid Prismatic: mana-health-the lane etc..
Dariden: yeah
Kid Prismatic: and something to start the snowball....lee
Kid Prismatic: XD
Dariden: when I saw him I was thinking "Well, top shouldn't have an issue, we've got a choice of Shyv, Udyr, etc"
Dariden: *watch as multiple random champs to include Lux and Twitch get clicked*
Dariden: *resulting in Blitz, who never speaks a word*
Dariden: Beep boop **** the turret
Kid Prismatic: yea going some1 who is squishy is a bad idea vs. talon
Kid Prismatic: very very bad
Kid Prismatic: its actually why people prefer him mid now
Dariden: seems to snowball like akali
Dariden: yeah, I've heard of (but not seen) that
Dariden: be given blue
Dariden: and farm with rake
Kid Prismatic: yea
Dariden: silencing them with blink
Kid Prismatic: and mid's are often AP so yea squishy
Dariden: and the silence helps the most against that
Dariden: plus ult dodging their combos
Kid Prismatic: 1 second that's all u got to kill em
Dariden: that's all I saw
Kid Prismatic: then i was doing my job right
Dariden: "he's near a tower, FLASH"
Dariden: though galio did a great job with his ults
Dariden: couple of close kills on you were interrupted
Dariden: plus
Dariden: that blitz
Dariden: grabbing either you or galio every time
Dariden: into our team
Kid Prismatic: cuz talon himself is squishy so gap closing in an instant like that is really risky so 1 second is what u got to kill
Kid Prismatic: lol
Dariden: so the two of you could ult the team and blow us up
Dariden: I think every time either of you got grabbed, we got aced
Kid Prismatic: i didnt understand that bvlitz grab towards the end when he had like 400 hp
Dariden: we needed to silence you
Dariden: like
Dariden: blitz could ult to counter your ult
Dariden: hitting you while stealthed
Kid Prismatic: yea
Dariden: and then we blow you up while silenced
Dariden: and you couldn't do anything being so squishy
Dariden: but he saved it for kill steals
Dariden: we REALLY needed the aoe silence
Dariden: stuff like that and galio's ult to interrupt
Kid Prismatic: yup
duhizy: nono me and galio coordinated our ults
duhizy: he ulted
duhizy: i knocked all off u p
Dariden: I could try to land a grenade on you, but usually you'd blink to me whil eit was traveling
Dariden: yeah, it was good chains
Kid Prismatic: have to dodge man
Dariden: I kept trying to get us to chain our cc
Dariden: and leona kinda did
duhizy: we had to much cc
Kid Prismatic: to be honest i was scared shitless of that
duhizy: u couldnt follow up
Dariden: but blitz just... didn't respond or acknowledge
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: I think
Dariden: even if we did cc you guys enough
duhizy: if blitz flash ult
Dariden: we didn't have the dmg by then
duhizy: maybe
Dariden: to finish it
Dariden: I only had maybe 79ap
Dariden: it was pathetic
duhizy: it was the only chance u guys had
Dariden: yeah
duhizy: blitz flash ult
duhizy: he was just o squishy tho
Kid Prismatic: blitz didnt shut me down and leona put me further ahead early game by failing the gank
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: we weren't in a position to invade
Dariden: at all
Dariden: you guys had early game advantage with aoe for one
duhizy: lol
Dariden: and lee is hard to interrupt
duhizy: she ganked talon when she was 3
Dariden: and our champs are slower movespeed too
Kid Prismatic: she walked up to me as a lvl 3 and i was 5 lol
duhizy: i was 6
duhizy: dem kills
Dariden: she yelled at me for not going for that early gank "thanks for showing up heimer" while I was walking
Kid Prismatic: lol wow
Dariden: I'm like "... I have 305 base move or something"
duhizy: heimer ganks?
Kid Prismatic: lol
Dariden: I've seen people do it
Dariden: but you have to snowball
Kid Prismatic: yea
Dariden: get enough early ap to make rockets hurt
duhizy: lol
Dariden: mine didn't
Dariden: so there was no point
Dariden: AND
Dariden: by me leaving lane
Dariden: galio would push and farm
Dariden: netting me a complete loss
duhizy: i warded top for that
Dariden: but leona would have none of that
Kid Prismatic: if only we were actually coordinated
duhizy: i thought u would
Dariden: INVADE ALL THE THINGS
duhizy: thank god u didnt gank top
Dariden: I did place a few wards for her (she said she couldn't afford them)
duhizy: i waited in that area
duhizy: loooool
Dariden: oh, yeah, that galio talon fight at top
duhizy: only reason i died
Dariden: I got completely bitched out for not being in that
duhizy: red warded
Dariden: even though before it had started I typed "buying" in chat and was in base when it happened
Kid Prismatic: ahh yea i see
Dariden: REALLY wanted it, but full health galio waiting in tri bush for me
Dariden: I just turned back around and kept walking
Dariden: I think
Dariden: you were 14/0/x before I ran into you the first time
Kid Prismatic: lol yea around that
Kid Prismatic: first death was at 15-0
Dariden: and I wasn't dying to galio, so I had nothing to do with that haha
Kid Prismatic: lol yup
Kid Prismatic: all blitz and leona really
Dariden: but I was still worthless on farm
duhizy: lol i killed u
Dariden: how did bot do?
Dariden: I was on skype with bot
duhizy: good
Dariden: normally mf plays lee jungle
duhizy: i couldnt gank
Dariden: and kept telling leona to stop trying to fight lee
duhizy: i only got one
duhizy: i waited for the ward to time out
duhizy: i got one gank off
Dariden: yeah, he's working on his ranged ad since he's a solo/jungle player
Kid Prismatic: oh so they can see/hear this right now right? MF and taric?
Dariden: nah, they went to bed
Kid Prismatic: ahh i c
Dariden: I think mf was streaming
Dariden: (not a big name stream of anything
duhizy: were
Dariden: but didn't have it up
Kid Prismatic: lol wow viewers?
duhizy: ?
Kid Prismatic: oh i see
Dariden: he tends to for some friends or to review games
Kid Prismatic: oh lol did they see this game perhaps?
Dariden: had a hilarious Yi baron steal on one of his games
Dariden: I have no idea, most people we knew weren't around so we had to pug
Kid Prismatic: ahh i see lol
Dariden: what hurt was that I never really get mad over bad play
Dariden: like the blitz frustrated me
Dariden: but I was more annoyed by leona
Dariden: not due to play, but attitude
Kid Prismatic: yea
Kid Prismatic: its never good to be negative
Dariden: mistakes can be fixed, but going full tilt by level 3 as a 5th pick jungle leona
Kid Prismatic: often hurts the team's mental play
Dariden: not much to do
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: like
Dariden: if I had completely ignored her
Dariden: and let her feed lee
duhizy: IT WASNT LEONAS FUALLLTTTT
Dariden: and just focused on mid
Dariden: I would have been more effective late game
Dariden: I dug my own grave there
Dariden: I was trying to be adaptive
Dariden: but it was a bad call in this instance
Dariden: given galio's pushing/zoning power
Kid Prismatic: yuuup
Dariden: you were 18 when I was still 10
Dariden: and that sounds really pedo
Kid Prismatic: lol
duhizy: ^
duhizy: loooooooool
Dariden: XD
Kid Prismatic: dat level gap
Dariden: and gear
Kid Prismatic: say u were the support LOL
Dariden: Team with Taric, Leona, and Blitz
Dariden: I'm totally calling myself the support
Dariden: don't know about those guys
Kid Prismatic: XD
Dariden: but I was support bot
Dariden: I actually didn't know Leona could even try to jungle
duhizy: she can
Dariden: Tryg said she could, but was very slow
duhizy: just really slow
Kid Prismatic: least no execution
Dariden: so I figured it was on par with Taric jungle
duhizy: yup
Dariden: (love jungle taric, hate his weak heal though)
Kid Prismatic: decent gank
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: seems like she just can't farm, needs ganks
Dariden: but
duhizy: nooo
Dariden: I think that means lane ganks
Kid Prismatic: probably
Dariden: and not jungle invasions asking laners to charge to jungle ganks
duhizy: she can farm just fine
duhizy: but she was three levels below me
Kid Prismatic: shouldve done mumu instead XD
Dariden: ah
Dariden: yeah
Kid Prismatic: if she wanted a tank jung
duhizy: nooooooo
duhizy: i woulda raped mumu
Dariden: we had no idea what was going to happen
duhizy: worst
Dariden: there was just no communication from those two till their picks came up
Kid Prismatic: wow
Dariden: at first I thought Blitz was trying to pick a mid
duhizy: dont worrry
duhizy: he'll never play leona again
Kid Prismatic: well gg man i should probably turn in get some shut eye for some talon ranks tomorrow
Dariden: XD
Dariden: same, thanks for the games and gl on the ranked
Kid Prismatic: or i guess u can say later today
duhizy: have a nice day
Dariden: enjoyed seeing it
Kid Prismatic: thanks gl gg cya around
duhizy: <3
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Also, a screenshot of the scores is posted below. Any questions can be resolved by reading chat. Did have the LoLreplay but I doubt it would interest anyone other than myself (and possibly Tryg) for analyzing how exactly this happened to us (given that we, and mostly bot lane, were not directly involved).
Surprisingly, for the absolute and total stomp fest, I personally had fun despite this (and despite Leona just bitching up a storm all game), because what I was watching from that Talon/Lee/Galio combination was like a damn dance.
Best part, to me, is that despite Talon being double everyone else's gold earned and their lowest gold earned (support Nunu) being only .5k below our highest gold earned (Tryg on MF), they were absolutely and totally cool about it. I stuck around and talked to Lee and Talon for quite a while about their perspective on that game, what could have been done differently, and how they felt about things. They were completely mature about it and we all wished each other well and moved on. I almost say faith restored, but I know the rest of the community.
Post game chatlog, for anyone bored. Mostly about laning phase and talon related stuff.
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xxMewxx: noob talon
Dariden: XD
duhizy: lee sin counter jungle to stronk
Dariden: Yeah
Mosqiil: first time leona
Trygelan: leona jungle too... well
Mosqiil: meh
duhizy: ye
duhizy: shes not much of a strong jungler
Dariden: No one on our team could get any gold to survive dat burst
Mosqiil: i could survive it
Mosqiil: but the rest of them got fed, too
Famitsu: your 15 deaths prove that
duhizy: when the jugnler is that slow
Kid Prismatic: XD
duhizy: just take all their buffs lol
Mosqiil: the rest of them ^
Dariden: XD
Mosqiil: read, bro
Mosqiil: and lee counter jungled me too hard at the beginning
Mosqiil: it set me back
Mosqiil: gj ee
Trygelan: because you were playing leona
Kid Prismatic: shoulda never ganked me\
Kid Prismatic: XD
Famitsu: next time dont last pick leona when we already had a blitz and taric
Trygelan: leona is a horrible jungler
Dariden: Leona has been raging at us all game
Dariden: but bottom line is we did not need a 4th and 5th pick blitz/leona
Dariden: we needed dmg
Dariden: and ONE tank
Kid Prismatic: lol
duhizy: hmm
Dariden: blitz ONLY used his ult if it could ks, drove me nuts
duhizy: lee can pretty much do that to everyone
Kid Prismatic: i still like that flash at the nexus turrets heim
Dariden: I was terrified
Dariden: you got near blink range
Dariden: and I was like
Kid Prismatic: i took like a step towards u and u flashed XD
Dariden: NOPENOPENOPE
Kid Prismatic: LOL
Dariden: Leona's like "WTF KILL TALON"
Kid Prismatic: lol
Dariden: I'm like "...*explode*
Kid Prismatic: i can't believe i didnt need my ult to kill u lol so squishy
Kid Prismatic: W-Q dead heimer lol
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: Leona was like "how do you not have hourglass yet? and only 111 armor?"
Dariden: I'm like "... I can totally afford to buy a 3600g item right now, and should totally be building full tank"
Dariden: Galio was a good mid choice
Kid Prismatic: lol yea
Dariden: been trying him lately again
Dariden: he's great against current mid meta
Kid Prismatic: oh big time
Dariden: goes to lane with 102 MR and hits like a truck
Dariden: problem is needs mana
Kid Prismatic: cuz he can buy merc treads to counter u without hindering his dmg
Dariden: and I tend to get junglers that won't give up blue when I play him
Dariden: exactly
Dariden: he nearly two shotted me at lvl 3
Kid Prismatic: XD
Dariden: and leona couldn't understand why I wouldn't run past him to go gank you at red
Dariden: you = lee
Kid Prismatic: yea leona making bad choices
Dariden: we needed more ward coverage as well
Dariden: (as a team)
Kid Prismatic: yea
Dariden: I tried to drop a few
Dariden: but a wild talon appeared
Kid Prismatic:
Dariden: good to see a successful talon though
Kid Prismatic: i like it
Dariden: whenever I try him
Dariden: I seem to run oom fairly hard
Dariden: though laning against blitz
Kid Prismatic: yea that mana regen nerf hurts
Dariden: probably helped
Dariden: less spam on the cone attack
Dariden: more last hitting
Dariden: what type of masteries did you take?
Kid Prismatic: to be a successful talon i guess is to manage early game
Kid Prismatic: 21-0-9
Dariden: gotcha
Kid Prismatic: standard AD stuff through offense mana stuff through utility
Dariden: think I always tend to try 9/21/0 for sustain
Kid Prismatic: lol talon isnt that kind of a champ
Dariden: but that's hurting on the mana too and not utilizing dmg
Kid Prismatic: yup
Kid Prismatic: controling your early game determines a talon
Dariden: do you tend to have a hard time against the typical Lee/Shyv top?
Kid Prismatic: yea they are an issue
duhizy: nope
duhizy: because i gank for him
Kid Prismatic: lol he ganks for me lets me snowball XD
Dariden: XD
Kid Prismatic: but typically yea they'll be tough
duhizy: then i comence to take all the junglez
Dariden: XD
Kid Prismatic: Lee especially cuz of his damn E
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: better when it was double castable
Dariden: totally not broken at all
Kid Prismatic: lol that was so broke XD
Dariden: fastest jungler of all time with that
Kid Prismatic: dbl damage just because u lagged what?
Dariden: do you level your Rake most?
Kid Prismatic: yeap
Dariden: followed by Q?
Kid Prismatic: yup
Kid Prismatic: what to take at lvl 2 is up to u
Dariden: yeah, same. Only played him rarely though
Kid Prismatic: im actually coming back into him
Kid Prismatic: duhizy over here convincing me to come back to talon xD
Kid Prismatic: 13-3 in ranked so far
Dariden: seems like he'd have a rough time with tankier champs
Kid Prismatic: he does haha
Kid Prismatic: that's the challenge of talon
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: one of the few games that helps you see the strengths of him
Dariden: instead of feeling he really needs buffed
Dariden: though I do think his mana costs should get a look
Dariden: or regen
Kid Prismatic: his regen imo
Kid Prismatic: mana costs are fine
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: the costs seem fine
Kid Prismatic: yea they aren't a big deal but the regen is so low that you go oom at lvl 1 after like 6 rakes
Dariden: yeah
Kid Prismatic: and raking is risky cuz u push everytime you rake
Dariden: surprised you didn't have to build some kind of mana item
Kid Prismatic: my only mana item is my tri-force
Dariden: i hated going chalice here instead of tear but wasn't being given blue and really needed the mr
Dariden: true, an early sheen prob helps
Kid Prismatic: yea
Kid Prismatic: but like i said the thing about talon is just pure control of everything
Kid Prismatic: mana-health-the lane etc..
Dariden: yeah
Kid Prismatic: and something to start the snowball....lee
Kid Prismatic: XD
Dariden: when I saw him I was thinking "Well, top shouldn't have an issue, we've got a choice of Shyv, Udyr, etc"
Dariden: *watch as multiple random champs to include Lux and Twitch get clicked*
Dariden: *resulting in Blitz, who never speaks a word*
Dariden: Beep boop **** the turret
Kid Prismatic: yea going some1 who is squishy is a bad idea vs. talon
Kid Prismatic: very very bad
Kid Prismatic: its actually why people prefer him mid now
Dariden: seems to snowball like akali
Dariden: yeah, I've heard of (but not seen) that
Dariden: be given blue
Dariden: and farm with rake
Kid Prismatic: yea
Dariden: silencing them with blink
Kid Prismatic: and mid's are often AP so yea squishy
Dariden: and the silence helps the most against that
Dariden: plus ult dodging their combos
Kid Prismatic: 1 second that's all u got to kill em
Dariden: that's all I saw
Kid Prismatic: then i was doing my job right
Dariden: "he's near a tower, FLASH"
Dariden: though galio did a great job with his ults
Dariden: couple of close kills on you were interrupted
Dariden: plus
Dariden: that blitz
Dariden: grabbing either you or galio every time
Dariden: into our team
Kid Prismatic: cuz talon himself is squishy so gap closing in an instant like that is really risky so 1 second is what u got to kill
Kid Prismatic: lol
Dariden: so the two of you could ult the team and blow us up
Dariden: I think every time either of you got grabbed, we got aced
Kid Prismatic: i didnt understand that bvlitz grab towards the end when he had like 400 hp
Dariden: we needed to silence you
Dariden: like
Dariden: blitz could ult to counter your ult
Dariden: hitting you while stealthed
Kid Prismatic: yea
Dariden: and then we blow you up while silenced
Dariden: and you couldn't do anything being so squishy
Dariden: but he saved it for kill steals
Dariden: we REALLY needed the aoe silence
Dariden: stuff like that and galio's ult to interrupt
Kid Prismatic: yup
duhizy: nono me and galio coordinated our ults
duhizy: he ulted
duhizy: i knocked all off u p
Dariden: I could try to land a grenade on you, but usually you'd blink to me whil eit was traveling
Dariden: yeah, it was good chains
Kid Prismatic: have to dodge man
Dariden: I kept trying to get us to chain our cc
Dariden: and leona kinda did
duhizy: we had to much cc
Kid Prismatic: to be honest i was scared shitless of that
duhizy: u couldnt follow up
Dariden: but blitz just... didn't respond or acknowledge
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: I think
Dariden: even if we did cc you guys enough
duhizy: if blitz flash ult
Dariden: we didn't have the dmg by then
duhizy: maybe
Dariden: to finish it
Dariden: I only had maybe 79ap
Dariden: it was pathetic
duhizy: it was the only chance u guys had
Dariden: yeah
duhizy: blitz flash ult
duhizy: he was just o squishy tho
Kid Prismatic: blitz didnt shut me down
and leona put me further ahead early game by failing the gankDariden: yeah
Dariden: we weren't in a position to invade
Dariden: at all
Dariden: you guys had early game advantage with aoe for one
duhizy: lol
Dariden: and lee is hard to interrupt
duhizy: she ganked talon when she was 3
Dariden: and our champs are slower movespeed too
Kid Prismatic: she walked up to me as a lvl 3 and i was 5 lol
duhizy: i was 6
duhizy: dem kills
Dariden: she yelled at me for not going for that early gank "thanks for showing up heimer" while I was walking
Kid Prismatic: lol wow
Dariden: I'm like "... I have 305 base move or something"
duhizy: heimer ganks?
Kid Prismatic: lol
Dariden: I've seen people do it
Dariden: but you have to snowball
Kid Prismatic: yea
Dariden: get enough early ap to make rockets hurt
duhizy: lol
Dariden: mine didn't
Dariden: so there was no point
Dariden: AND
Dariden: by me leaving lane
Dariden: galio would push and farm
Dariden: netting me a complete loss
duhizy: i warded top for that
Dariden: but leona would have none of that
Kid Prismatic: if only we were actually coordinated
duhizy: i thought u would
Dariden: INVADE ALL THE THINGS
duhizy: thank god u didnt gank top
Dariden: I did place a few wards for her (she said she couldn't afford them)
duhizy: i waited in that area
duhizy: loooool
Dariden: oh, yeah, that galio talon fight at top
duhizy: only reason i died
Dariden: I got completely bitched out for not being in that
duhizy: red warded
Dariden: even though before it had started I typed "buying" in chat and was in base when it happened
Kid Prismatic: ahh yea i see
Dariden: REALLY wanted it, but full health galio waiting in tri bush for me
Dariden: I just turned back around and kept walking
Dariden: I think
Dariden: you were 14/0/x before I ran into you the first time
Kid Prismatic: lol yea around that
Kid Prismatic: first death was at 15-0
Dariden: and I wasn't dying to galio, so I had nothing to do with that haha
Kid Prismatic: lol yup
Kid Prismatic: all blitz and leona really
Dariden: but I was still worthless on farm
duhizy: lol i killed u
Dariden: how did bot do?
Dariden: I was on skype with bot
duhizy: good
Dariden: normally mf plays lee jungle
duhizy: i couldnt gank
Dariden: and kept telling leona to stop trying to fight lee
duhizy: i only got one
duhizy: i waited for the ward to time out
duhizy: i got one gank off
Dariden: yeah, he's working on his ranged ad since he's a solo/jungle player
Kid Prismatic: oh so they can see/hear this right now right? MF and taric?
Dariden: nah, they went to bed
Kid Prismatic: ahh i c
Dariden: I think mf was streaming
Dariden: (not a big name stream of anything
duhizy: were
Dariden: but didn't have it up
Kid Prismatic: lol wow viewers?
duhizy: ?
Kid Prismatic: oh i see
Dariden: he tends to for some friends or to review games
Kid Prismatic: oh lol did they see this game perhaps?
Dariden: had a hilarious Yi baron steal on one of his games
Dariden: I have no idea, most people we knew weren't around so we had to pug
Kid Prismatic: ahh i see lol
Dariden: what hurt was that I never really get mad over bad play
Dariden: like the blitz frustrated me
Dariden: but I was more annoyed by leona
Dariden: not due to play, but attitude
Kid Prismatic: yea
Kid Prismatic: its never good to be negative
Dariden: mistakes can be fixed, but going full tilt by level 3 as a 5th pick jungle leona
Kid Prismatic: often hurts the team's mental play
Dariden: not much to do
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: like
Dariden: if I had completely ignored her
Dariden: and let her feed lee
duhizy: IT WASNT LEONAS FUALLLTTTT
Dariden: and just focused on mid
Dariden: I would have been more effective late game
Dariden: I dug my own grave there
Dariden: I was trying to be adaptive
Dariden: but it was a bad call in this instance
Dariden: given galio's pushing/zoning power
Kid Prismatic: yuuup
Dariden: you were 18 when I was still 10
Dariden: and that sounds really pedo
Kid Prismatic: lol
duhizy: ^
duhizy: loooooooool
Dariden: XD
Kid Prismatic: dat level gap
Dariden: and gear
Kid Prismatic: say u were the support LOL
Dariden: Team with Taric, Leona, and Blitz
Dariden: I'm totally calling myself the support
Dariden: don't know about those guys
Kid Prismatic: XD
Dariden: but I was support bot
Dariden: I actually didn't know Leona could even try to jungle
duhizy: she can
Dariden: Tryg said she could, but was very slow
duhizy: just really slow
Kid Prismatic: least no execution
Dariden: so I figured it was on par with Taric jungle
duhizy: yup
Dariden: (love jungle taric, hate his weak heal though)
Kid Prismatic: decent gank
Dariden: yeah
Dariden: seems like she just can't farm, needs ganks
Dariden: but
duhizy: nooo
Dariden: I think that means lane ganks
Kid Prismatic: probably
Dariden: and not jungle invasions asking laners to charge to jungle ganks
duhizy: she can farm just fine
duhizy: but she was three levels below me
Kid Prismatic: shouldve done mumu instead XD
Dariden: ah
Dariden: yeah
Kid Prismatic: if she wanted a tank jung
duhizy: nooooooo
duhizy: i woulda raped mumu
Dariden: we had no idea what was going to happen
duhizy: worst
Dariden: there was just no communication from those two till their picks came up
Kid Prismatic: wow
Dariden: at first I thought Blitz was trying to pick a mid
duhizy: dont worrry
duhizy: he'll never play leona again
Kid Prismatic: well gg man i should probably turn in get some shut eye for some talon ranks tomorrow
Dariden: XD
Dariden: same, thanks for the games and gl on the ranked
Kid Prismatic: or i guess u can say later today
duhizy: have a nice day
Dariden: enjoyed seeing it
Kid Prismatic: thanks gl gg cya around
duhizy: <3
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Also, a screenshot of the scores is posted below. Any questions can be resolved by reading chat. Did have the LoLreplay but I doubt it would interest anyone other than myself (and possibly Tryg) for analyzing how exactly this happened to us (given that we, and mostly bot lane, were not directly involved).
![[Image: Ashe.jpg]](http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af298/symbiosychotic/Ashe.jpg)