06-09-2012, 11:09 AM
The town is trying the same tactic as last game - afk their way to a loss.
Seriously, extended day and people are just not bothering to vote or even post. We can't physically get votes for lynches at all because we require every single active person to agree on one target half the time, and those active people include mafia themselves. We don't have any room for disagreement or discussion because quite a few people have no plans to participate.
This is getting old. I want to be nice about it, but if this is the way the rest of this game is going to go, then I don't actually care when the mafia kills me. I've put a lot of information out there and, while some others are at least reading and responding, others are just not, at all. The town's biggest opponent is each other, because it isn't possible to reach majority votes. I've put out reasons for why I have suspicions or thoughts, and some of us aren't even visiting the site to read it and tell me what I have wrong so that we can attempt to actually win this thing.
Let's look at what we have as our likely final, just over an hour before the end of an extended (nearly two day) Day Phase.
It starts off with 2 votes towards Android 17 (someone who appears to have a vote reduction ability), and then due to disagreement flows into 2 other votes against Doe. We then get another vote from 17 for himself. We also have a vote against Kayne in there somewhere.
What does that tell us? It tells us that only 6 people are voting out of the 8 of us. We require a 5 vote majority, and some of us have vote reduction abilities. I would wager that at least 2 of those voting today are mafia.
We even tried to lynch inactives, but couldn't get enough active votes to try THAT tactic. So even if I changed my vote, we still won't reach a majority vote. Even if I use my power, which is the ability to add +1 to whatever vote I make, we still won't reach a majority vote, because all the voting powers in the world will not make up for non-participants/non-votes.
Today we are going to go another day of no lynch, for the second game in a row of a nearly perfect no lynch set of games, and go into Night Phase. The mafia will execute someone. I would say me, out of sheer paranoia but also just to off those who are actually trying to create some discussion. The other target that I would kill if I were a mafia would be Doe, which is why I am now suspicious of the votes made against him. I find it very convenient that, in a very inactive game, a strong push to vote out one of the most active and probing members. I have no idea if he's mafia or not, but at least he's encouraging people to be active and share information.
Want more information? If I get 3 votes against me, or even one vote with me then voting for myself and using my +1 vote ability to make 3, then I evolve into Ratticate. I then would basically have the ability to kill one person Vigilante style. I don't like that ability because it can harm the town as much as help, and I also know that acknowledging having it means you are an immediate lynch target. Here's what I'm doing if for some reason I'm not killed by the mafia and then for some other reason I evolve - I'm killing an inactive. Maybe I'll get lucky and catch a mafia, maybe I will just hit a completely detrimental townsperson, but I can't actually hurt the town other than removing a slight bit of padding.
Tonight we lose someone, anyone, and we go down to 7 players. We'll need a 4 vote majority to consider a possible lynch, COUNTING any vote reduction abilities out there. All of the mafia members, whether it be 2, 3, or fucking all 7 of the rest of you, are still alive.
Don't throw this game too, guys. Its getting really frustrating. If my post seems overly heated, then I apologize for coming off that way but I've done everything I can to try to stimulate this comatose town body into doing something more than signing up for a spot in the game and then going on vacation. I can't offer anything else.
Regarding my current suspect list, honestly, I've re-read some posts, looked at timing, and reconsidered some options.
1. Kayne is either being consistent with her actions last game, or she's intentionally trying to create an air of town agreement leading to split votes.
2. Kaden is on my list now. Kayne's actions make me suspicious as is, and Kaden (and myself) began to follow her lead when she suggested (a good suggestion) to eliminate inactives. Following that, he then began giving short posts about the need to vote against Doe, more or less just using vague arguments of why the second most active and probing person in the game should be removed, and Kayne immediately agrees and votes with him, helping derail a vote that's in place while knowing we need a strict majority. He isn't probing and asking nearly as many questions as I feel he usually does and is coming off more as just riding out a victory. This suspicion is going to be called a weak claim, but I disagree with that.
3. Android 17 / or Rose. At the moment, I can't decide between them. I lean to Rose, for some reason, but he's not being active enough to give me anything to go on, which makes me wonder if there's an in game reason for that. He's posting, just not posting votes. Whereas 17 doesn't line up as well with my thoughts of Kaden + Kayne all that well.
That said, I feel like the active town last game, when they reached the point where the mafia weren't even trying to be subtle or inconspicuous and still controlled the game entirely.
Seriously, extended day and people are just not bothering to vote or even post. We can't physically get votes for lynches at all because we require every single active person to agree on one target half the time, and those active people include mafia themselves. We don't have any room for disagreement or discussion because quite a few people have no plans to participate.
This is getting old. I want to be nice about it, but if this is the way the rest of this game is going to go, then I don't actually care when the mafia kills me. I've put a lot of information out there and, while some others are at least reading and responding, others are just not, at all. The town's biggest opponent is each other, because it isn't possible to reach majority votes. I've put out reasons for why I have suspicions or thoughts, and some of us aren't even visiting the site to read it and tell me what I have wrong so that we can attempt to actually win this thing.
Let's look at what we have as our likely final, just over an hour before the end of an extended (nearly two day) Day Phase.
It starts off with 2 votes towards Android 17 (someone who appears to have a vote reduction ability), and then due to disagreement flows into 2 other votes against Doe. We then get another vote from 17 for himself. We also have a vote against Kayne in there somewhere.
What does that tell us? It tells us that only 6 people are voting out of the 8 of us. We require a 5 vote majority, and some of us have vote reduction abilities. I would wager that at least 2 of those voting today are mafia.
We even tried to lynch inactives, but couldn't get enough active votes to try THAT tactic. So even if I changed my vote, we still won't reach a majority vote. Even if I use my power, which is the ability to add +1 to whatever vote I make, we still won't reach a majority vote, because all the voting powers in the world will not make up for non-participants/non-votes.
Today we are going to go another day of no lynch, for the second game in a row of a nearly perfect no lynch set of games, and go into Night Phase. The mafia will execute someone. I would say me, out of sheer paranoia but also just to off those who are actually trying to create some discussion. The other target that I would kill if I were a mafia would be Doe, which is why I am now suspicious of the votes made against him. I find it very convenient that, in a very inactive game, a strong push to vote out one of the most active and probing members. I have no idea if he's mafia or not, but at least he's encouraging people to be active and share information.
Want more information? If I get 3 votes against me, or even one vote with me then voting for myself and using my +1 vote ability to make 3, then I evolve into Ratticate. I then would basically have the ability to kill one person Vigilante style. I don't like that ability because it can harm the town as much as help, and I also know that acknowledging having it means you are an immediate lynch target. Here's what I'm doing if for some reason I'm not killed by the mafia and then for some other reason I evolve - I'm killing an inactive. Maybe I'll get lucky and catch a mafia, maybe I will just hit a completely detrimental townsperson, but I can't actually hurt the town other than removing a slight bit of padding.
Tonight we lose someone, anyone, and we go down to 7 players. We'll need a 4 vote majority to consider a possible lynch, COUNTING any vote reduction abilities out there. All of the mafia members, whether it be 2, 3, or fucking all 7 of the rest of you, are still alive.
Don't throw this game too, guys. Its getting really frustrating. If my post seems overly heated, then I apologize for coming off that way but I've done everything I can to try to stimulate this comatose town body into doing something more than signing up for a spot in the game and then going on vacation. I can't offer anything else.
Regarding my current suspect list, honestly, I've re-read some posts, looked at timing, and reconsidered some options.
1. Kayne is either being consistent with her actions last game, or she's intentionally trying to create an air of town agreement leading to split votes.
2. Kaden is on my list now. Kayne's actions make me suspicious as is, and Kaden (and myself) began to follow her lead when she suggested (a good suggestion) to eliminate inactives. Following that, he then began giving short posts about the need to vote against Doe, more or less just using vague arguments of why the second most active and probing person in the game should be removed, and Kayne immediately agrees and votes with him, helping derail a vote that's in place while knowing we need a strict majority. He isn't probing and asking nearly as many questions as I feel he usually does and is coming off more as just riding out a victory. This suspicion is going to be called a weak claim, but I disagree with that.
3. Android 17 / or Rose. At the moment, I can't decide between them. I lean to Rose, for some reason, but he's not being active enough to give me anything to go on, which makes me wonder if there's an in game reason for that. He's posting, just not posting votes. Whereas 17 doesn't line up as well with my thoughts of Kaden + Kayne all that well.
That said, I feel like the active town last game, when they reached the point where the mafia weren't even trying to be subtle or inconspicuous and still controlled the game entirely.
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