06-11-2012, 02:23 AM
Alright, there's actually stuff to respond to now.
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Post 10
Thank you for this. Even if you are bullshitting us, at least there is something we can see to cross reference. If I were looking at these abilities in a vacuum, here would be my immediate thoughts. Doe's Tentacool is not what prevented lynchings. We lost lynchings 100% to simply not voting. A save ability would prevent mafia kills, which we actually haven't managed to do.
Furthermore, we know that Tentacool evolved into Tentacruel. Here's where it gets odd for me. See, if I were designing these at this point, I would not want to put the doctor ability on the mafia side. However, Tentacruel could easily have a flip of that ability. I could easily see something like "Night, kill a player, reveal your alignment to everyone" or something like that. This is a MAJOR mixed signal here.
Kaden is Eevee. There's nothing to really know here other than "He doesn't have an ability that would rule him out for a mafia", if I were going by abilities alone.
Rose is Scyther. I already knew that, though I thought he might have been lying about it. So two options are that either you are backing up his claim (at least the one he made to me through PM) and gain credibility for your ability, letting you make up abilities for others who are mafia, or you are completely legit.
King B is dead and a townie. Unfortunate.
17, that makes sense. I'm not wasting more votes on him. I don't see why a mafia would have this ability, at least without some weakness so we could crack through said shell.
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Post 14
Rose mentioned it, but he was confirming a claim I made on a previous day.
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Post 19
I am starting to think he might be one of them. Looking at the abilities that we know of, its ruling out so many people (if abilities alone can be used) that Vad is the remaining, silent nearly inactive option.
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Post 21
Out of curiosity, are there circumstances that will allow you to evolve into one of the three vanilla Eevee modes? Or did you get straight fucked as a pure blank?
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Post 22
Fuck yeah I bitched about it. I bitched and I bitched hard. I'm worried that with the number of inactives we have this game, either something similar or an opposing strat is happening.
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Post 23
Absolutely nothing. If I were judging purely off abilities alone, I would honestly be suspicious of my ability (a vote adding ability and then later a vigilante kill ability that shows my alignment). Your entire first paragraph makes complete logical sense in my opinion and the only reason I can't simply agree with it is because of the fact that my character sheet tells me and I townie and I haven't been informed of any mafia connection. But that's not something you guys know, and I'm going to agree with your post. There's nothing I can do to prove my alignment other than get evolved and then kill someone so the GM has to announce it, and that's a major risk for you guys and the town in general to take. I wouldn't view it as worth it. So I can't do anything but hope people don't go for what would be a great red herring with me being a logical candidate, especially when I can't do anything but speculate why I haven't been axed by mafia yet. That said, there's quite a few prime people that haven't been axed instead losing random ass people.
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Post 27
This really throws the game even more askew. Your evolution claim makes sense. If you ARE mafia, I don't get why you would have that ability. I... have no fucking idea at this point.
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Post 28
No, there isn't an official count. We can only speculate. Normally, in a game this size, there would be 2 or 3, depending on the abilities. I'm starting to think that only 2 is a possibility this game, because too many people's ability make no sense to let the mafia use.
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Post 30
Ok, you answered an earlier question in this post. Kind of a cool ability. Also, no, dude, I agree about Rose.
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Here's a crazy fucking speculation.
I know only one thing to be pure fact. I am not a mafia member. The other things that I can only speculate on are that most of the revealed abilities in this game are not something I would feel comfortable with the mafia having. Those people are not someone I want to point the finger at now.
Vad is someone that I can't say one way or the other on, and Rose seems like an ability I'd be totally fine with mafia having. If I were other people and listing a third, I agree that I'd be listing me here, given the context related to other abilities.
The only flaw I recognize there is that I'm not a mafia member. So either someone is doing a damn good job at lying about their ability, something is seriously out of whack that we are overlooking, there are only two mafia, or another option that I am considering... Is it possible that the game started with only one mafia member, someone without an evolution and thus a constant, and then other character evolutions will change their alignments to mafia instead of town?
For example, if I change to Raticate, given the ability, will that then turn me into a mafia member? What about Tentacool changing into Tentacruel (if it does become offensive)? It would be a very interesting and wild wrench to throw into things.
Lynch Rose
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Post 10
Thank you for this. Even if you are bullshitting us, at least there is something we can see to cross reference. If I were looking at these abilities in a vacuum, here would be my immediate thoughts. Doe's Tentacool is not what prevented lynchings. We lost lynchings 100% to simply not voting. A save ability would prevent mafia kills, which we actually haven't managed to do.
Furthermore, we know that Tentacool evolved into Tentacruel. Here's where it gets odd for me. See, if I were designing these at this point, I would not want to put the doctor ability on the mafia side. However, Tentacruel could easily have a flip of that ability. I could easily see something like "Night, kill a player, reveal your alignment to everyone" or something like that. This is a MAJOR mixed signal here.
Kaden is Eevee. There's nothing to really know here other than "He doesn't have an ability that would rule him out for a mafia", if I were going by abilities alone.
Rose is Scyther. I already knew that, though I thought he might have been lying about it. So two options are that either you are backing up his claim (at least the one he made to me through PM) and gain credibility for your ability, letting you make up abilities for others who are mafia, or you are completely legit.
King B is dead and a townie. Unfortunate.
17, that makes sense. I'm not wasting more votes on him. I don't see why a mafia would have this ability, at least without some weakness so we could crack through said shell.
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Post 14
Rose mentioned it, but he was confirming a claim I made on a previous day.
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Post 19
I am starting to think he might be one of them. Looking at the abilities that we know of, its ruling out so many people (if abilities alone can be used) that Vad is the remaining, silent nearly inactive option.
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Post 21
Out of curiosity, are there circumstances that will allow you to evolve into one of the three vanilla Eevee modes? Or did you get straight fucked as a pure blank?
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Post 22
Fuck yeah I bitched about it. I bitched and I bitched hard. I'm worried that with the number of inactives we have this game, either something similar or an opposing strat is happening.
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Post 23
Absolutely nothing. If I were judging purely off abilities alone, I would honestly be suspicious of my ability (a vote adding ability and then later a vigilante kill ability that shows my alignment). Your entire first paragraph makes complete logical sense in my opinion and the only reason I can't simply agree with it is because of the fact that my character sheet tells me and I townie and I haven't been informed of any mafia connection. But that's not something you guys know, and I'm going to agree with your post. There's nothing I can do to prove my alignment other than get evolved and then kill someone so the GM has to announce it, and that's a major risk for you guys and the town in general to take. I wouldn't view it as worth it. So I can't do anything but hope people don't go for what would be a great red herring with me being a logical candidate, especially when I can't do anything but speculate why I haven't been axed by mafia yet. That said, there's quite a few prime people that haven't been axed instead losing random ass people.
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Post 27
This really throws the game even more askew. Your evolution claim makes sense. If you ARE mafia, I don't get why you would have that ability. I... have no fucking idea at this point.
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Post 28
No, there isn't an official count. We can only speculate. Normally, in a game this size, there would be 2 or 3, depending on the abilities. I'm starting to think that only 2 is a possibility this game, because too many people's ability make no sense to let the mafia use.
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Post 30
Ok, you answered an earlier question in this post. Kind of a cool ability. Also, no, dude, I agree about Rose.
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Here's a crazy fucking speculation.
I know only one thing to be pure fact. I am not a mafia member. The other things that I can only speculate on are that most of the revealed abilities in this game are not something I would feel comfortable with the mafia having. Those people are not someone I want to point the finger at now.
Vad is someone that I can't say one way or the other on, and Rose seems like an ability I'd be totally fine with mafia having. If I were other people and listing a third, I agree that I'd be listing me here, given the context related to other abilities.
The only flaw I recognize there is that I'm not a mafia member. So either someone is doing a damn good job at lying about their ability, something is seriously out of whack that we are overlooking, there are only two mafia, or another option that I am considering... Is it possible that the game started with only one mafia member, someone without an evolution and thus a constant, and then other character evolutions will change their alignments to mafia instead of town?
For example, if I change to Raticate, given the ability, will that then turn me into a mafia member? What about Tentacool changing into Tentacruel (if it does become offensive)? It would be a very interesting and wild wrench to throw into things.
Lynch Rose
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