Affordable Healthcare Act upheld

[Pinky]

I sincerely doubt anyone believes having the government run anything is more efficient.

You're talking about economics though; efficiency versus equity. This isn't economics, this is ethics, and I believe I'm a consequentialist; I believe in the greatest good for the greatest number of people.

Privately-run hospitals are almost the antithesis of that, and certainly don't take things like the hippocratic oath seriously.

Access to healthcare - which in many cases is access to life - offers immense freedom from many worries and uncertainties millions of Americans live with every day. It works all over Europe. It would work in Canada if our system wasn't so corrupt.

I think it would work better if supplemented by private healthcare for those wealthy enough to afford it, but that's it's own debate.

Efficiency is important, but if that's all you think about, you get people seriously considering crazy things like abolishing child labor laws or the minimum wage (which is shockingly low in most states).

I see where you're coming from, I guess, but I place a really high value on human lives, and I feel our government is responsible, in part, for doing what it can to protect them.

This reminds me of an Ayn Rand quote. The debate between collectivism and liberty is about morality first. People don't support collectivist morality because they believe in collectivst economics, most people understand that collectivist economies are bad. Instead, they believe in collectivist morality and that leads them to collectivist economic policy.

Over the last decade I've watched goverment run systems routinely shut down hospitals due to lack of funds, never for a lack of need. But that is an economic argument, and if that's off the table then what can I say? The only thing left is to accuse the incumbent leadership of being poopyheads, who need to be replaced by people that would expand medical systems without respect to fiscal viability.