07-02-2012, 05:10 PM
Government is the fiction that everyone can live at the expense of everyone else. Government run medical plans are the largest fiscal liability in the US, both at the national and state level (every state's biggest budget items are Medicare and Medicaid). No matter how much you enjoy your political support being bought at someone else's expense, we are gradually but steadily headed for a cliff -- "forwad" isn't a good direction right now. The socialist welfare states across Europe are decaying, and the advancement of that decay is directly linked to which nations have the most lavish entitlement programs. Eventually, all they will have left is a debt they can't pay and we are right behind them.
And while you guys are talking about it, nowhere in the bible does Christ or his disciples advocate the use of force as a means to any end, which is necessary for the programs you advocate. All resources collected by the first Christians were volentary donations, ie charity. The ends-justify-means ideology that you guys are indulging in, where you shamelessly support the use of force against fellow citizens not because they are a danger but merely because they won't do as you want them to in the manner you want them to, is tyrannical and cannot be justified by New Testment philosophy.
And while you guys are talking about it, nowhere in the bible does Christ or his disciples advocate the use of force as a means to any end, which is necessary for the programs you advocate. All resources collected by the first Christians were volentary donations, ie charity. The ends-justify-means ideology that you guys are indulging in, where you shamelessly support the use of force against fellow citizens not because they are a danger but merely because they won't do as you want them to in the manner you want them to, is tyrannical and cannot be justified by New Testment philosophy.

