Yes, because China has an impeccable record, never violating anyone's human rights and ensuring the standard of living soars in that country.
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...Yeah.
And yeah, true, debt is a function of GDP, but you're getting to the point where servicing your debt is going to consume an enormous amount of that GDP, and is getting to the point where economists are concerned it could actually outgrow the GDP in the long-term.
Worse than that, you say that your currency is the world standard, which is true to an extent, but since 2008 many wealthy nations like the UAE are buying fewer dollars and buying more gold.
Regardless of the facts, consumer confidence in the US economy has rarely been lower, especially from the point of view of foreign investment.
Plus, you kind of dodged the question. Yep, medicine is expensive. Especially the way you guys have it set up.
But 'forcing' military expenditures on people, or road works, or, hell, even schooling, on people is just as tyrannical as 'forcing' healthcare on people.
And, Vad, just so you know, you're in equal parts condemning and supporting socialism. What do you think 'giving' half the money to Ohio is, exactly? That's a transfer payment. That's socialism.
In fact, despite the fact that the US is 'officially' not socialist, your government subsidizes over 100% more money for American farmland than we do for Canadian farmland, and we produce more food per capita by far. And we're actually socialist.
That is a socialist practice. In other words, the USA already is socialist in many, many ways, but just won't admit it.
Your military receives socialized healthcare, and I doubt that many GIs complain about that.
I just feel that maybe you should complain about wasted money where it's actually being wasted. For instance, my city is spending a half billion dollars on a museum we don't need while our roads and medical centers are starving for funding. That is a waste of money. If we had a surplus and could afford it, I'd be all for the museum. But museums are not profitable, and spending so much on it now when the money is needed so badly elsewhere is- I don't even have a word for it. I'd like to say 'sinful' but I don't like the religious connotations attached to that.
And, hey, our economy's faring quite well despite our evil socialist tendencies. Plus, I don't take my life into my own hands just crossing the street like many Americans often have to.
Though it is a personal anecdote and not really the best argument, one of the big reasons I support socialized medicine is simple; my grandfather's cancer treatments cost 600 thousand dollars when they finished. We were never presented with a bill for anything except medication, which, over half was also subsidized by the government. He would absolutely have died without it.
You're calling me selfish, Vad? You would let a man like my grandfather die, despite the fact we have access to effective treatment and have doctors and nurses available to perform the necessary procedures?
That's the kind of horrible selfishness the Occupy movement rallied against, wasn't it?
The truth is, pure capitalism does not work. And, wow, really? That's quite the stretch, there, linking socialism to tyranny. A Hitler reference, I'm guessing?
Kind of reaching, given that most socialist Scandinavian states are among the most socially liberal nations on Earth.
If we're gonna do the jingoist deathcamp analogy, I'd say the USA is far more likely to start setting those up before a state like Switzerland, lol
I turned down my greencard because your government scares me. I'm not concerned about socialist nations like Denmark or Sweden. =/
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...Yeah.
And yeah, true, debt is a function of GDP, but you're getting to the point where servicing your debt is going to consume an enormous amount of that GDP, and is getting to the point where economists are concerned it could actually outgrow the GDP in the long-term.
Worse than that, you say that your currency is the world standard, which is true to an extent, but since 2008 many wealthy nations like the UAE are buying fewer dollars and buying more gold.
Regardless of the facts, consumer confidence in the US economy has rarely been lower, especially from the point of view of foreign investment.
Plus, you kind of dodged the question. Yep, medicine is expensive. Especially the way you guys have it set up.
But 'forcing' military expenditures on people, or road works, or, hell, even schooling, on people is just as tyrannical as 'forcing' healthcare on people.
And, Vad, just so you know, you're in equal parts condemning and supporting socialism. What do you think 'giving' half the money to Ohio is, exactly? That's a transfer payment. That's socialism.
In fact, despite the fact that the US is 'officially' not socialist, your government subsidizes over 100% more money for American farmland than we do for Canadian farmland, and we produce more food per capita by far. And we're actually socialist.
That is a socialist practice. In other words, the USA already is socialist in many, many ways, but just won't admit it.
Your military receives socialized healthcare, and I doubt that many GIs complain about that.
I just feel that maybe you should complain about wasted money where it's actually being wasted. For instance, my city is spending a half billion dollars on a museum we don't need while our roads and medical centers are starving for funding. That is a waste of money. If we had a surplus and could afford it, I'd be all for the museum. But museums are not profitable, and spending so much on it now when the money is needed so badly elsewhere is- I don't even have a word for it. I'd like to say 'sinful' but I don't like the religious connotations attached to that.
And, hey, our economy's faring quite well despite our evil socialist tendencies. Plus, I don't take my life into my own hands just crossing the street like many Americans often have to.
Though it is a personal anecdote and not really the best argument, one of the big reasons I support socialized medicine is simple; my grandfather's cancer treatments cost 600 thousand dollars when they finished. We were never presented with a bill for anything except medication, which, over half was also subsidized by the government. He would absolutely have died without it.
You're calling me selfish, Vad? You would let a man like my grandfather die, despite the fact we have access to effective treatment and have doctors and nurses available to perform the necessary procedures?
That's the kind of horrible selfishness the Occupy movement rallied against, wasn't it?
The truth is, pure capitalism does not work. And, wow, really? That's quite the stretch, there, linking socialism to tyranny. A Hitler reference, I'm guessing?
Kind of reaching, given that most socialist Scandinavian states are among the most socially liberal nations on Earth.
If we're gonna do the jingoist deathcamp analogy, I'd say the USA is far more likely to start setting those up before a state like Switzerland, lol
I turned down my greencard because your government scares me. I'm not concerned about socialist nations like Denmark or Sweden. =/
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