Toonami's Final Broadcast.

[Josh]

Um, I'm not referring to something I heard on the internet from a fansub, I'm referring to what the Miyabi manager that we trained and sent to the Fayetteville, NC location "taught" a few of us. I'm not saying its a literal translation of "fuck" in the exact sense so much as word of intent, showing its "level of profanity" when compared to things like kuso and other phrases.

I've talked to translaters and native speakers, and in fact I even questioned the same thing you have when watching official subs and fansubs and the answer has always been that the fansubs are embellishing what it really meant and makes them seem more profane.

EDIT: However, you completely glossed over the point of my thread in that nearly every single time (which this has changed recently with dubs) that a dub translates a phrase, they have nearly always settled on the translation that is the most free from profanity. This is something I was REALLY glad didn't happen in Black Lagoon; in fact, it made me enjoy the dub better in that it flowed well (even if not a word for word translation like anime purists want where "everything is better in japanese and english always screws it up"). The bar scene with the drinking being a prime example to me.

And Warako, you say that just because you think that Shin Chan is the epitome of cartoon perfection

It's not less profane, you just feel that it is because those words have lost weight in western society. Now a days crap and damn have considerably less weight then they did when they were originally being said and a lot of the time aren't even considered profane any longer.

Suprisingly the word "Baka" carries quite a bit of weight, more so than calling some one and idiot here but most people use it joking in the western world. I remember quite a few people being kicked out of our Japanese language class by the teacher who was nonplussed at the usage of that word.

Some thing also don't translate well considering japanese has like 5 different ways to say "YOU!" each with their own origin like "Kisama, Anata, Onore, Omae."

Kuso does mean shit, but it's fine to go with damn since it's also used and accepted for that.

As for the recent funimation dvds, they do pretty good with their translations. Though it's funny since it seems to be pretty litteraly with the translation, even has Goku using a japanese proverb in which he comments on his last attack "really being the weasels last fart."