The epic Freiza vs Goku debate

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Originally posted by Kakarot

Originally posted by Akane Kimidori
I never said Goku had to beat him, or implied that he would win, or whatever. I said that Goku was on par; able to compete with him. Which Goku was.

No, he wasn't. Being on Par, or able to compete would mean they were on some kind of even ground which they weren't. Furiza was faster and stronger than Goku, and even when he put everything he had behind an attack it was stopped and nullified by Furiza who barely got hurt.

Originally posted by Akane Kimidori

If Goku couldn't even compete with him, the battle would have been *exactly* like what happened with Vegeta.

Goku was closer to being on Par with Vegeta than he was with Furiza. In the saiyajin Saga, Goku gets numerous hits on Vegeta and even over powers Vegeta's strongest attack. In comparison, Goku gets a suprise combo on Furiza and then goes about using his strongest attack, only to have it crushed like a bug with one hand.

So your trying to say that Goku was around the same strength as a individual who couldn't even see Frieza most of the time?

When Goku could hit Frieza and block his attacks?