09-09-2007, 11:55 PM
Well then, illogically Superman could push the universe back into one singularity using sheer willpower alone. And he could attain tiers of power equal to or greater than any super saiyan level. But then the argument would be moot in general. If you're going to argue that one being is stronger than the other, then you have to use logic, despite how illogical the two beings are. Otherwise it'll just degenerate into a cops and robbers situation of, "I shot you!" "No you didn't!"

