Goku vs Superman

[Krillin]

Personally, that's why I don't read the comics. That's by far one of the lamest things, ever. XD. But, my counter to this.. uh..

Great argument Akane. WTF SUPES STRONGER THAN GOKU = LAMEZOR I WIN

The Green Latern Ring has been beaten before, and really, it's useless against Goku. Goku can move faster then light in the Saiyan Saga, and since the green laterns ring is made of energy, it'd be simple for the Saiyan to dodge without even going SSJ. As for the upsurge in power, that's quite hard to get around.

One: Goku couldn't go faster than the speed of light in the Saiyan Saga, and I'm damn near sure he couldn't during the Buu Saga either (I know nothing of GT). If you can contradict me on this point, I'd love to see some source, but otherwise, I'm going to have to dismiss this.

The idea that Goku can dodge energy easily is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He gets hit by ki blasts during all sagas. Ki is energy.

"Goku can blow up a planet? Superman once juggled planets. "

This is the one I like, the most. XD. In truth, we don't know exactly what Goku could do with a planet. Because he well.. wouldn't do any damage to it, unless it couldn't be averted. However. Master Roshi is able to destroy a planet, with a power in the hundreds. SSJ 4 Goku is well into the billions. I mean, let's just use a Dragonball Z reference.

Again, I'd like to see the source where Master Roshi could destroy a planet. I remember nothing of this sort ever.

So. SSJ 4 Goku is far stronger then SSJ 3 Kid Buu, of course. That's apparent by the fact that Goku could barely fight Bebi in that form, and with SSJ 4, he was winning (for a awhile, until Bebi transformed). So, if Kid Buu, who at this time was far weaker (Uub, the reincarnation of Kid Buu being defeated by Bebi with no effort, at all), was able to destroy planets with flicks of his finger, couldn't Goku, if he actually wanted, to the same thing? If not better.

So they both can easily destroy planets. Big deal. I'll bet they can both easily lift a fifty-pound weight as well, but that says nothing for who is more powerful.

"Goku has instant transmission? The Flash can run over 8 times the speed of light, and Superman barely lost to him in a footrace. That means that Superman can move at around 7.7 times the speed of light. Goku's instant transmission is only 99% speed of light."

See, this is partially where I'll agree with the inconsistities (Sp?). Raditz in the Saiyan Saga, could move faster then light. That's how you dodge energy beams and waves, because, according to Piccolo, they move as fast as the speed of light. Now, Goku was *far* faster then Raditz in the Frieza Saga, as apparent by the fact that people who could see Vegeta's movements in the Saiyan, and early Frieza Saga (Vegeta, as we know, is far faster and stronger then Raditz, even in the Saiyan Saga), couldn't even see Goku move. Even Vegeta couldn't see him move. Yet, Goku was moving so fast he didn't even appear to move, a attribute that the Flash himself has used.

Source on Piccolo stating they move faster than light? If they do, this is a GRAVE inconsistency to the entire DBZ world and physics in general. While I'm not exactly surprised that DBZ breaks the laws of physics, this is quite blatant.

Again, just because Goku and the Flash can both do the same thing does not mean they are equal in power/speed/whatever. Same logical fallacy as your first point.

"Superman once nearly outflew the barrier of creation. "


So? Goku is capable of harnissing the energy of the entire universe, and if he desires, absorb it into himself. Which, increases his power even *more* dramatically. Indeed, with a ball of energy just from the people of earth, he was able to defeat a Android who was far stronger then his Super Saiyan self, with one punch.

Yeah, except that takes way too damn long. Before Goku can even mutter the words, Supes would punch his face into oblivion.

A major inconsistincy in the Superman universe. If you say, flew to another galaxy, and helped them, they wouldn't even notice/no you did it/anything, before you'd have to return. Yeah.. that's hard to understand.

I don't understand how this is an inconsistency. At all.

Goku powering up to Super Saiyan 3 threatened to blow up the world. Buildings across the planets shattered, and so on.

That's hardly his voice. 'Course, you can just argue that SSJ3 Gotenks could blow a dimensional hole and such, but whatever.

Uh....Yeah..

Another dazzling display of intelligence. If I didn't know better, I'd wonder if you were Marilyn vos Savant's grandchild.

Yeah.. see.. now your losing me. The problem is, Dragonball Z hasn't been around 60 years to exploit fanboyism. =/

What the flying fuck is that suppoed to mean?

Goku is able to push back a planet with his Kamemehameha move, in the Lord Slug movie. That is, until it explodes. But uh.. Goku's weak at that time, nowehere near his full power. >_>.

There's a big difference in pushing back a planet using your actual life energy (which can be sapped to the point of death, or near death, as shown by Tien in the Cell saga), and actually HURLING a planet through space. Oh, and, yeah. This is before Superman actually gets pwnag3.