Today...

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If Iraq was really a part of a larger strategy to stabilize the middle east then Gerorgie went about it with all the subtlety of a sledge hammer and none of the efficiency.

Agreed, and stabilizing the Middle East would be a loose term for 'forcefully inserting governments that will get along with us so we can rape them of their oil and suppress governments that are dangerous to us'


Oh and Underoo, my point wasn't that Iran wasn't more dangerous than Iraq- i stated the opposite actually when i was that militaristically Iran was far more developed than Iraq, but thanks for agreeing with me on that part. My point was that the American public were more knowledgeable about Suddam's regime and the evils they had committed than Iran (Ignorance or not it's true) which made Iraq an easier target.

Edit: Point about the money has that we'e spending a large sum of money, and all we're accomplishing is creating a giant clusterfuck that cannot be won and wasting american lives. Also earlier you made the point that these regimes are using their oil reserves to make profit which they use to train terrorists, and that is also our fault. An energy efficency program should have been developed ages ago and we all know it and now we're funding and fighting the same people, which makes it more of a clusterfuck we can't win.

We buy more oil that the entire world, we pay for terrorists to be trained (when we're not readily training them ourselves, AQ 1980's). Than we have to go over there and fix the problem we created by buying so much oil. my point stands, we're in a clusterfuck we cannot fix.