Buu.

[Grandpa Gohan]

Originally posted by Bardock
Yamcha. Spam. Warning.

Using that image for your Spiritken form is my compromise. If you absolutely must have a physical manifestation for your character growth, that will fit the bill just fine.

It still sounds like appearance is an important factor. You want Buu to look "tough" and "strong" to reflect his change to dark and focused. Buu can still be dark and focused looking the way he is. You ever see the Daredevil comics? Spider-man cartoon? The Kingpin was a pretty hefty guy, and he had phenomenal strength and had a very commanding presence. He was the leader of the New York mafia. He had insane physical combat skills, and he trained for them. He could kick a guy's ass up and down the street with his bare hands. You don't have to look a certain way to show you're a badass.

No, but being a big pink peice of bubblegum doesn't help the case either. Someone else had said it, Jacky I think, that wwere limited to our imagination. The first thing I thoguht when I saw Buu was "wtf, your kidding right?", and even when he was kicking ass and taking names he wasnt... "evil", more like a child throwing a temper-tantrum.

I do agree with your compramise though.

Question- If he had mastered shape change, what'd be the limitations? for buu's I mean. Would they be able to change their skin color and whatnot? instead of their "basic" form now(where their still pink)

Sorry if thats spam, warn me if you feel like it is, though I think its on topic.