10-15-2008, 03:06 AM
Ele damage got severely nerfed for some reason.
Also, basically everything about a lock got the shit nerfed out of it. They got beat down with the nerf bat. And despite those patch notes, a good number of our talents in the trees that previously worked no longer work. Conflag is only getting 50% crit dmg from Ruin, not 100%, etc. And the real kicker for me is that locks are literally useless as far as raids go. Here's the reason.
Our dmg was severely lowered to compensate for "all the utility we offer raids". However, the patches after that implemented the new buff and debuff system. This system means that any similar buffs do not stack with another class's version of it. Now Every ability we offer to the raid is overwritten by something else, as none of our buffs are considered the "superior" buff, meaning having those classes sets it up as if you don't even have the lock. And if we are offering no buffs that way, then we should be doing more damage to compensate. Except we are not, because they decided we are now focused on Spirit, and didn't even put a single bit of Spirit onto our current gear.
So that leaves us giving Healthstones and Soulstones. Ok, Healthstones have been changed so that you can only have one of them of any rank period. Instead of being able to give three by stacking your talents correctly. In our place it makes more sense to bring a Moonkin now, because spamming Wrath and Starfire alone puts out more dps than a Lock can while also putting up a couple of new debuffs on the boss that overwrite our debuffs. The kicker is that Druids all have Innervate to offer to another class IF they have a mana issue, as well as everyone of them able to rez with the new Revive (normal rez, no cooldown) as well as having Rebirth, an in combat battle rez that you don't have to guess who's going to drop first in order to use, which makes Soulstone useless.
So what you'll do is put in whatever classes will offer all the buffs total, and then stack the rest of the raid with whatever puts out the most dmg (Feral, Moonkin, and Retadins). There's a program online that let's you play with raid makeups completely to see who brings what buffs, and you can get all the "superior" buffs that will overwrite other similar buffs with zero locks, and then stack for dps on the rest.
We don't bring crowd control either. They changed Fear and Curse of Recklessness so that we can't semi-control it in an instance with what was called "Fear Juggling". No reason for me to explain what it is but I can if asked. Its been removed though.
The first raid is all about undead. Fear doesn't work on undead, nor does banish. Nor does the succubus. Rogues, however, had Sap changed to allow them to use it on Undead.
Going to pvp, we are still being two and three shot by melee. So they lowered our stamina to help.
On my Shaman, I loved being Resto so that I could actually survive a rogue, those and Paladins being the only things that could over shields, as well as Warriors just beating them down (though on equal terms). Well, Rogues, now get (at level 20) Disarm, which removes the weapon, shield, and all offhand items that the opponent is carrying for 10 seconds. So its a 10 second move against a warrior that makes them unable to attack back, and against anything with a shield, they lose it, dropping over half their armor.
Shaman and Locks got the same raid nerfs, to be honest, which frustrates me. Shaman got nerfed to compensate for "all the damage other classes were putting out with Bloodlust/Heroism".
Also, basically everything about a lock got the shit nerfed out of it. They got beat down with the nerf bat. And despite those patch notes, a good number of our talents in the trees that previously worked no longer work. Conflag is only getting 50% crit dmg from Ruin, not 100%, etc. And the real kicker for me is that locks are literally useless as far as raids go. Here's the reason.
Our dmg was severely lowered to compensate for "all the utility we offer raids". However, the patches after that implemented the new buff and debuff system. This system means that any similar buffs do not stack with another class's version of it. Now Every ability we offer to the raid is overwritten by something else, as none of our buffs are considered the "superior" buff, meaning having those classes sets it up as if you don't even have the lock. And if we are offering no buffs that way, then we should be doing more damage to compensate. Except we are not, because they decided we are now focused on Spirit, and didn't even put a single bit of Spirit onto our current gear.
So that leaves us giving Healthstones and Soulstones. Ok, Healthstones have been changed so that you can only have one of them of any rank period. Instead of being able to give three by stacking your talents correctly. In our place it makes more sense to bring a Moonkin now, because spamming Wrath and Starfire alone puts out more dps than a Lock can while also putting up a couple of new debuffs on the boss that overwrite our debuffs. The kicker is that Druids all have Innervate to offer to another class IF they have a mana issue, as well as everyone of them able to rez with the new Revive (normal rez, no cooldown) as well as having Rebirth, an in combat battle rez that you don't have to guess who's going to drop first in order to use, which makes Soulstone useless.
So what you'll do is put in whatever classes will offer all the buffs total, and then stack the rest of the raid with whatever puts out the most dmg (Feral, Moonkin, and Retadins). There's a program online that let's you play with raid makeups completely to see who brings what buffs, and you can get all the "superior" buffs that will overwrite other similar buffs with zero locks, and then stack for dps on the rest.
We don't bring crowd control either. They changed Fear and Curse of Recklessness so that we can't semi-control it in an instance with what was called "Fear Juggling". No reason for me to explain what it is but I can if asked. Its been removed though.
The first raid is all about undead. Fear doesn't work on undead, nor does banish. Nor does the succubus. Rogues, however, had Sap changed to allow them to use it on Undead.
Going to pvp, we are still being two and three shot by melee. So they lowered our stamina to help.
On my Shaman, I loved being Resto so that I could actually survive a rogue, those and Paladins being the only things that could over shields, as well as Warriors just beating them down (though on equal terms). Well, Rogues, now get (at level 20) Disarm, which removes the weapon, shield, and all offhand items that the opponent is carrying for 10 seconds. So its a 10 second move against a warrior that makes them unable to attack back, and against anything with a shield, they lose it, dropping over half their armor.
Shaman and Locks got the same raid nerfs, to be honest, which frustrates me. Shaman got nerfed to compensate for "all the damage other classes were putting out with Bloodlust/Heroism".
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