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Raditzu Wrote:Aren't losing anything in the trade? If you're spending points on moves, you're not spending them on stats. How is that not a trade?

It's not a trade because, currently, stats have nothing to do with the strength of a move. So if I'm stacking my TP into my stats, what good does it do me if the only vague correlation between stats and moves is my overall strength? Since Retane has inserted himself into this conversation, I will use him as an example. He's gotten like, what, 22 moves? What has he lost by putting his TP towards moves rather than stats? Nothing because a vast majority of his moves have no connection to general strength and, at the moment, that's the only factor of comparison we have to weigh the success of moves. As it stands, a more powerful character (a person with a higher max ki) has a better chance of overpowering/ avoiding an attack... and that's about the extent of the correlation between stats and moves. So, if you have no stat(s) that limit the number of moves that can be obtained, then people like retane can stack up on moves that have nothing to do, really, with max ki and they lose nothing. So their stats are lower... what does it matter when they have 22 moves to your 10 (or so)?

All I'm saying is that there either needs to be a correlation between stat strength and move strength, or stat strength and moves learned, or both. Otherwise, there is a massive gaping hole in the system.

As an aside, I'm only mentioning Retane, again, because he decided to insert himself into this thread.

Quote:You also seem to be assuming that there will never be anything else to use TP on, leaving people with the choice of either spending ridiculous amounts on stats or just continually buying best moves. Which will not be the case forever.

I mean... I can't read minds. I'm commenting on the current system. Give me more, and maybe things are different but even if people can spend TP on different things, there's still an issue with the inequity between best move strength and best moves earned.

Quote:I understand what you guys are saying, but there's nothing to be gained by forcing people to increase a stat if they want more best moves. What would the purpose of that mechanic be? If the only reason you think it should be that way is because it "makes sense" then I'm going to have to completely disagree.

You disagree with things because "they make sense" O_o...

I'm saying that it keeps people in check and keeps the system balanced. If you aren't going to balance it, then fine. I too will begin to spend all my TP on best moves because stat strength, apparently, has no greater function in the game than a vague IC reference to: "He was faster than me..." or "Wow he has better technique..." If techniques and best moves are entirely independent of stats, that's doable, I just want to know so I don't leave my character at a dramatic disadvantage. I can load up on a bunch of non-max ki related moves aimed at deception and confusion as well, and have nothing to check me.
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Moves - by Aqua - 02-02-2008, 05:41 AM
Moves - by Mal Nova - 02-02-2008, 07:47 AM
Moves - by Kaden - 02-02-2008, 09:53 AM
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