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[Drake]

Originally posted by Krillin
I think it's funny that people are pissed about something when they still haven't heard the reasons for it. What about the whole "Innocent until proven guilty" idea?

I think it's funny that we haven't heard a reason yet even though we are at 3 pages.

[Vegeta]

Holyshit. You guys need to calm down first, and then consider giving the staff's descion some time. If it's really not working with one of the changes they've made then it can and will be changed. It's not like these changes are on a 3 year contract or anything.

You are way too worried about what goes on behind the scenes, just chill and wait a while before you all post and say "YOU'RE DOING IT ALL WRONG!!!".

[Dehan]

Originally posted by Raditzu
So people are pissed about Akane being offered a position. That's what I see thus far.

Anything else?

And feel free to be honest. I won't warn people or anything like that.

Well...ahem...I'm jealous of your character's hair...maybe if you shave it off?

Naw seriously, I've read Akane's rps and they're great, and for me it's kind of easy to see she may have had some experience of being staff on other forums/rpgs so I see no big problem with it. And congrates to the new staff.

So can't we all just get along?

Then again I'm just a newbie myself to chubbs so I can't lean against or for anything especially being just a member lol. I'll be watching intently though to see what happens...this is like a mini movie thing.

[Super Buu]

Originally posted by Krillin
I think it's funny that people are pissed about something when they still haven't heard the reasons for it. What about the whole "Innocent until proven guilty" idea?

There's also the argument of defending something for the sake of defending it. I mean, no offense, but earlier on you said you wanted to know the reasons for Akane being staffed, but you were still defending it, even though you yourself had no idea what you were defending. Sticking up for staff because you're staff is as bad as sticking up for the members because you're a member. Gotsta see things from both sides, ken?

[Violet]

Originally posted by Krillin
I think it's funny that people are pissed about something when they still haven't heard the reasons for it. What about the whole "Innocent until proven guilty" idea?

Well, we're on page three. Where's the reasons?

And I don't think there is ANY good reason to make Akane staff this soon. I am beginning to think you guys are huffing something illegal here.

[Banned Dana]

Seems to be the thing going on right now, everyone getting ready to quit over this...which is sad. I'm not leaving, but I do think that it's strange.

Also, i've wanted to be staff for some time now, but I can't do it, nor do I want to try, just have too much on my plate. However, I still don't want others to take over the staff and just run it to no end.

Dropping Burter a rank was a mistake that will soon be regreted and if/when he leaves, it's going to be too late to correct it. Nothing will replace FoF or any of the DA's, it's quite apparent that the thing that the staff is lacking is the ability to run a saga(the right way).

I know there have been saga's before Burter got here, but you don't hear about those, you hear about FoF or DA's. Burter and I don't see eye to eye a lot of the time, but frankly, if anyone deserves SM, it's him, no one and I mean NO ONE else deserves that position, they simply haven't earned it.

[Raditzu]

Christ would you please read what I post?

I said the shuffle had been in the works, not Akane. I thought you would put the two together and realize we couldn't have been considering her, as you said.

I'm sorry your pissed, but what in the world do you have to be so upset about? Burter I can understand being upset. He has a right to be.

I would respect the complaints if there was anything to back them, but you guys are imagining worst-case scenarios without giving it a second thought. Yeah, maybe Akane will screw up and we'll have made a huge mistake. Maybe she'll turn into the best staffer we've ever had. Maybe she won't even want to be a staff member. Shit... after all of this I don't want to be a staff member.

EDIT: I'm done saying anything for now. If you guys want to continue, then go for it.

[Saz]

Wow, alot's went on today. I haven't been here long, so I can't really comment on who is more worthy of a place on staff, but I'm slightly confused as to why Akane is being asked. Surely someone like SB should have been asked. If you wanted to have someone new to the forum as staff to freshen things up, then why not Aqua?

Oh, and how could Burter be demoted, I mean he's been like the most active and helpful mod since I've been here. That's harsh.

[Belle Hibiki]

Originally posted by Nappa
Like i said before, i probably would've picked more seasoned vets (Super Buu, Pan, 17, Zarbon, and maybe kid buu).

I don't really have a problem with A20. He's certainly been here long enough, and has shown the ability to comport himself maturely in every place I've seen him. I don't have a problem with Celipa either; been here longer than I have.

For the remaining spot, all but one of the those listed above would be okay in my book, as well as PD, maybe a few others. That 'one' in the all but one would be me, as I don't consider myself nearly experienced enough or knowledgable enough. I also don't know the staff in any great depth, or most of the members outside of my Alliance. I feel that I simply don't have what it takes.

I apologize if I sounded heated earlier and went a little overboard, but I feel that giving Akane staff position over the heads of many other more qualified candidates requires some sort of compelling reason.

[Super Buu]

Originally posted by Raditzu
I would respect the complaints if there was anything to back them, but you guys are imagining worst-case scenarios without giving it a second thought. Yeah, maybe Akane will screw up and we'll have made a huge mistake. Maybe she'll turn into the best staffer we've ever had. Maybe she won't even want to be a staff member.

That still doesn't answer the question. Why Akane specifically? Like I said earlier, there are dozens of promising newbies who could make a good staffer. You have to understand that it looks as if you just picked a random member you liked out of the hat.

[Krillin]

Originally posted by Super Buu

There's also the argument of defending something for the sake of defending it. I mean, no offense, but earlier on you said you wanted to know the reasons for Akane being staffed, but you were still defending it, even though you yourself had no idea what you were defending. Sticking up for staff because you're staff is as bad as sticking up for the members because you're a member. Gotsta see things from both sides, ken?

How can I not see it from your guy's sides? There's six of you, repeating yourselves over and over again, reiterating what everyone else is saying, and poking hot sticks at the Staff decision like we're some kind of political administration.

I love a good argument, but this is getting ridiculous.

[Banned Dana]

We're still not being answered. =(

we all just want to know why Akane was chosen for the staff position over the plathora(sp?) of other members that are equally or more qualified than she is. That arguement would be over, or at least I would hope so, if that question could be answered, but it's simply being overlooked or ignored.

[Raditzu]

I'm aware that the question wasn't answered. That was done for a reason.

I also realize you all want an answer. No need to beat a dead horse.

[Krillin]

Originally posted by Krillin

I wonder how much it is jealousy floating around about Akane, and how much of it is actual concern that she is too inexperienced for the position of Story Guide.

[Bujin]

Originally posted by Krillin
repeating yourselves over and over again

[Krillin]

Clever. Didn't quite work within the context of what I was talking about, but clever nonetheless.

[Super Buu]

I'm sure you've got your 'reasons', but if you're not going to give us an answer, then don't expect us not to be pissed. That's just silly. =/

[Spencinator]

=( I am also a little upset at the new changes in staff.

Er, why make Akane staff? Oo I know I'd just be repeating everyone else when I say this, but she's been here for like three weeks. No offense, but NOTHING I've seen her do was ever staff worthy. I understand she's actively role-playing as of now and she's real nice, but wow, staff? Oo I think maybe you should perhaps consider some of the Chubbs Idol contestants a bit more.

Also, I think demoting Burt was pretty low. =( I mean sure the guy can be harsh at times, but nothing I've seen that was severe enough to deserve a demoting. =\

Er, sorry for sounding like a broken record, just stating my opinion on the issue. =(

[Banned Dana]

well, I mean if you're not going to answer the question and that's the thing that's bothering people the most, perhaps you should just lock this thread, since that's the topic at hand.

I'm not trying to argue, but the fact that people are quiting or threating to quit over this shows that something isn't right in people's minds.

And it doesn't matter if it's one person, six, or the entire rpg, as staff you're job is to help the people and inform them, not leave them out in the dark just becuase you don't want to answer a question. It's your god given right to not answer, but the only thing it'll do is cause turbulance and frankly, that's not healthy for an RPG.

[Violet]

Originally posted by Krillin

Originally posted by Krillin

I wonder how much it is jealousy floating around about Akane, and how much of it is actual concern that she is too inexperienced for the position of Story Guide.

Its not jealously, its a collective, "What the fuck?" moment. Take a step back and look. You probably haven't been a regular member for a while, so it's going to be a little difficult actually seeing it from our side, but look at it this way: we're here to play. You guys, you're here to play and make sure that we keep it together. Think of it sort of as a democracy, except we don't really vote you guys in, but we sure in the hell will have an opinion about who we want to make sure this game doesn't flounder. One misplaced block will make the jinga tower fall, guys.


I still want a good reason to WHY Akane should be staff.