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[Carter]

Have you considered a Rogue? The soloing they are actually very useful (such has not having to clear caves, and not just caves, theres something about only have to kill who you have to kill.) As for Pve tho, probably not. I'd rock a paladin otherwise, but it all depends on your type of play. The rogue fits me perfectly so I love em, quick and hard hitting but not really someone that can afford to get hit. Plus... like.. stealth!... OMG!

[Ashe]

Problem with them is similar to leveling a feral: Caster mobs rape you for quite a long time in the early levels.

[Vad]

Problem with them is similar to leveling a feral: Caster mobs rape you for quite a long time in the early levels.

If I remember correctly, evasion negates that problem a bit. I don't remember having a problem with caster mobs. Since they were line of sight. Run behind an object and you force them to run to you. THUS! It's melee time, and you own face.

[Vad]

Have you considered a Rogue? The soloing they are actually very useful (such has not having to clear caves, and not just caves, theres something about only have to kill who you have to kill.) As for Pve tho, probably not. I'd rock a paladin otherwise, but it all depends on your type of play. The rogue fits me perfectly so I love em, quick and hard hitting but not really someone that can afford to get hit. Plus... like.. stealth!... OMG!

To double post...

Stun Lock FTW...if it's still there. I haven't played since before BC.

[Android-18]

Rogues are great in PVE, my bf is a rogue and we've raided a lot.

[Vad]

Rogues are great in PVE, my bf is a rogue and we've raided a lot.

Can't get enough DPS. ^_^

[Ashe]

If I remember correctly, evasion negates that problem a bit. I don't remember having a problem with caster mobs. Since they were line of sight. Run behind an object and you force them to run to you. THUS! It's melee time, and you own face.

Evasion doesn't do a thing for casters.

But while LOSing things works fine, there's a number of times where you can't. Such as when you are in Ghostlands outside of that mine, where caster mobs pat around and can chain aggro. And their range can be retarded as well. You'll end up with some firing at you from each direction, immediately pop Sprint and get the hell out of there, to still die from four nukes that casted after they were off target range. Meaning the mobs broke range, ran after you a bit, and stopped to cast a 1.5 at you, and then finished before you range them again.

Annoying, and my Druid had the same issue.

It gets better in later levels for sure, although I'm not a fan right now of my rogue fighting poisoning mobs in WPL right now, since I have to stop and bandage or eat every single fight and wait for the poison to wear off.

[Ashe]

Rogues are great in PVE, my bf is a rogue and we've raided a lot.

Yeah, though they are getting some Combat buffs because now that people are geared, they are not scaling as well in raids as certain other classes, so they are falling behind a fair bit later on. Its become noted enough that a few changes are being made that will help them with sustained without buffing their PVP burst, such as AR being a lower cd now. And AR is pretty awesome, I have to admit.

Almost as awesome as a Feral with Beserk.

[Vad]

It sounds like they changed Rouge alot. I can no longer be of help on this matter. I'd be fucking pissed if I ever went back though. I liked what I remember.

I used to just run at the casters, and hit them as they were attacking, forcing them into Melee. =/

[Ashe]

It sounds like they changed Rouge alot. I can no longer be of help on this matter. I'd be fucking pissed if I ever went back though. I liked what I remember.

I used to just run at the casters, and hit them as they were attacking, forcing them into Melee. =/

No, I mean, that works. But the other caster mobs are going to chill in the back nuking you, and since it ignores armor, it hurts.

Later, the BC talents gave them trainable Cloak of Shadows, which basically is an activated 90% resistance to any spells, and removes (not dispels) any dots or magic effects on them.

Meaning if they need to capture a flag, they blow Sprint, Evasion, and CloS and they are getting that god damn flag, no matter what you try to do about it.

Its really annoying on Wintergrasp when you are guarding the entrance way to the big orb, and one of them literally blows those cds, and sprints straight through the aoe and traps (resist the traps) and clicks the well protected orb for the win, and you can't do a damn thing but stare.

[Vad]

See, this doesn't make sense. If I'm able to tank a warrior one on one...and take him down before a damn mage can kick my ass. This is PVP mind you, but still. I was Sword Specced then.

Again, heres a strategy based on my experience. This may not work Rei, you tell me.

Stealth.

Near one of the casters. Cheap Shot.

Move to the aggroed Caster, hit him up, Kidney Shot.

Move to the one that just came off Cheap Shot. Kick his ass.

Kill the other one. It's easier to melee two of them, than take caster hits.

If you aggro three? Better damn burn one of em down before you die. Pop evasion to reduce melee damage, and move toward the casting one. Make him melee then kick his ass.

Kidney Shot is your friend. =/ That's my old strategy. If it helps, use it.

[Ashe]

I'll be the first to say my rogue is only 52, so I don't have tons of experience. However, in the small experience I've had, yeah, I would stealth up, sap one, then cheap shot the next, then move to the other and try to burn him down a bit. KS really only works if you get 4 or 5 combo points, however, otherwise the GCD eats up half the time you actually gained. If you are extremely focused, you might be able to alternate between two targets with kicks, gouge, KS, vanish+sap, etc.

But the situation I'm referring to is you are engaged in melee with a caster already, and another caster walks by, sees you, and starts nuking you. In the time it will take you to get there (IF you are not Sub with Shadow Step), you will have serious issues.

It definitely gets cleared up with BC abilities though. That's a large focus they put into BC for rogues, making them anti caster since casters were eating them alive and anyone could kite a rogue (which is next to impossible now).

[Vad]

I'll be the first to say my rogue is only 52, so I don't have tons of experience. However, in the small experience I've had, yeah, I would stealth up, sap one, then cheap shot the next, then move to the other and try to burn him down a bit. KS really only works if you get 4 or 5 combo points, however, otherwise the GCD eats up half the time you actually gained. If you are extremely focused, you might be able to alternate between two targets with kicks, gouge, KS, vanish+sap, etc.

But the situation I'm referring to is you are engaged in melee with a caster already, and another caster walks by, sees you, and starts nuking you. In the time it will take you to get there (IF you are not Sub with Shadow Step), you will have serious issues.

It definitely gets cleared up with BC abilities though. That's a large focus they put into BC for rogues, making them anti caster since casters were eating them alive and anyone could kite a rogue (which is next to impossible now).

I'm not talking 70 my man. I'm talking 60, so you being 52 is 97% of my skill. Remember, I stopped before Burning Crusade came out. I did play a 70 rouge for like a week. I forgot most of that.

From what your describing brings me back to this being out my league now. The talent tree's seem to have changed too much. I can read up on them and give you some clues if your really having trouble. Otherwise. There's nothing I can do. =/ Wish I could help.

[Ashe]

Oh, nah, not that, was just an observation I had made. I'm probably just not fast enough with my reactions to deal with it.

I don't play the rogue much, just a casual leveling experiment.

At the moment, the only horde I play for the most part is my druid for pvp stuff. Otherwise I've been on my Sham and Lock again.

[Carter]

This is how I kinda do mobs with my rogue. Sap one (Usually a caster), ambush one(Usually dead unless its a plate npc), blind another. I then procred to either kill the almost dead or start on the untouched one if its dead. I can kill it fast enough to then start on the blind, kill it and now off to the sap, who is still sapped. Owned.


Shadowstep helps cut down the time of travel and i stun when if i absolutly have to.

so yea, lower lvling is the part that isnt as cool, but that with every class. But they dont get to go into stealth which is a massive advantage.

[Kazuya]

not going to read all that. I'm a stealth whore. My two main characters are both rogues, one NE, and one BE. Anzuma is awesome with instances, and I'm almost to the point where Janolauren is starting to get pimp.

[Josh]

http://www.crispygamer.com/comics/ding/page0021.aspx

rofl this is for timmah and emily

[Milk Bubble]

http://www.crispygamer.com/comics/ding/page0021.aspx

rofl this is for timmah and emily

Hahahaha. Thanks, Josh.

[Jack]

147 hours? WTF???

[Waffuru]

That counts the many hours she just leaves the game open and does something else though. ie sleep